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Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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RobertH - Oct 29, 2003 10:06:53 pm PST #6349 of 10001
Disaffected college student

If I want to show someone the Willow/Oz arc in four, maybe five episodes, which ones should they be? I'm fairly sure I'll end with New Moon Rising, but I'm not sure where to begin.

That's tough . . . some of the best parts of the Willow/Oz arc stand alone in their respective episodes. Wild at Heart would be a necessity, and Phases is the first episode to really focus a lot of attention on it.


helentm - Oct 29, 2003 10:07:20 pm PST #6350 of 10001
Religion isn't the cause of wars. It's the excuse. - Christopher Brookmyre

Phases, definately.

Umm, and choose several from WML 1 and 2, Beauty and the Beasts, Choices, Fear Itself, and Wild At Heart.

You pretty much need Phases and Wild at Heart to make any sense of New Moon Rising, but that's pretty heavy on the werewolfness, so it might be worth doing WML 1 and 2 which show Oz just being his cool Oz self.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 29, 2003 10:11:13 pm PST #6351 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Also "Surprise/Innocence," where Oz is pulled into the gang and has the conversation in the van about kissing Willow.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Oct 29, 2003 10:24:34 pm PST #6352 of 10001
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Okay, so: Phases, Beauty and the Beasts, Choices, Wild at Heart, and New Moon Rising. That's five, they're spread fairly evenly through the seasons, thus giving me lead-ins to explain the other season arcs if needed, and should show off the good parts.

Thanks, folks!


Cindy - Oct 30, 2003 12:31:40 am PST #6353 of 10001
Nobody

Also "Surprise/Innocence," where Oz is pulled into the gang and has the conversation in the van about kissing Willow.

Yes. Surprise has the adorable "I'm going to ask you out"—"I said 'date,'" scene. And the kissing conversation that Matt cites above—although it is only a brief moment—is the most romantic exchange I have ever encountered in any medium. Truly.


Micole - Oct 30, 2003 1:29:42 am PST #6354 of 10001
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

I think "Amends" is pretty important, too.


Cindy - Oct 30, 2003 1:59:02 am PST #6355 of 10001
Nobody

Oh that's right Micole, with the Barry White, and virtuous!Oz. I tend to forget there was non-B/A stuff happening in Amends, but you're right.


smonster - Oct 30, 2003 5:09:59 am PST #6356 of 10001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Surprise has the adorable "I'm going to ask you out"—"I said 'date,'" scene. And the kissing conversation that Matt cites above—although it is only a brief moment—is the most romantic exchange I have ever encountered in any medium. Truly.

ITA. Melts my, um, heart every. single. time.


JenP - Oct 30, 2003 5:55:58 am PST #6357 of 10001

And the kissing conversation that Matt cites above—although it is only a brief moment—is the most romantic exchange I have ever encountered in any medium. Truly.

This, with the Istanbul conversation, also taking place in the van, are the most touching bookends to a relationship I think I have ever seen or read. They did such a lovely job with Oz and Willow.


Vortex - Oct 30, 2003 6:39:55 am PST #6358 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

They did such a lovely job with Oz and Willow.

yes, they did. and if SG hadn't wanted to do movies, Oz would have stayed and Xander would have come out. Rock.