Catherine Deneuve. Still.

She is truly and literally beautiful. I don't think anyone is getting my definition of pretty (which really, look it up, TW is next to it in the dictionary).

Um... I wonder if I can use examples instead of definitions.

Robert Redford=pretty Paul Newman=beautiful

Farah Fawcett (in her hay day)=pretty Sophia Lauren=beautiful

Nah, they're not capturing what is in my head. Never mind.

eta...

Ooh, I think tina gets it, and possibly Plei.

That guy on Birds of Prey? Pretty.

AD? More beautiful than pretty.

CC? Pretty.

I didn't watch BoP, but yeah. Beauty has a (visual) depth that pretty doesn't, maybe? I do think Jaclyn Smith straddles the line between pretty and beautiful most successfully.

CC managed to cross it, in the beginning of The Wish, when she was in that spectacular leather outfit--but it wasn't the outfit. It was either her make up, or (maybe even) her acting. She did a great job betraying her pain with her face, and I think that helped.

Pretty has a lot to do with smooth and regular and symmetrical and nothing-out-of-place. KK is pretty. Pretty can also be beautiful, but it isn't necessarily. It's also a juvenile characteristic, and a fairly static one. It has more to do with absence of flaws than with anything really animating the face.

Beautiful, by contrast, is all about life. Beautiful people may have their pretty characteristics, but that's not what makes them distinctive. The sort of people who look good in pictures, but leave you saying, "but the picture doesn't capture what s/he's really like" is beautiful. Allyson Mack is beautiful, as are AH and AD, Gina Torres, Johnny Depp.

Hot gets into some pretty serious YMMV range -- for me, it's sometimes beautiful, but it's almost always the opposite of pretty -- instead, it tends to be strong-featured and quirky and craggy and (in men, anyway) scruffy. It's why I prefer Boromir to Legolas-standing-around, although Legolas-in-action-with-weapons is beautiful and therefore transcends.

I find Charisma Carpenter to be that insanely too-pretty-to-be-human type of pretty

I think she's pretty, but not that pretty. TW is beautiful, but I can't be captivated by him once I saw an interview. He's not bright. That makes him far less attractive. Now, MR? with his wicked wit and sly grin, that's hottitude.

"Newsradio"

Beth: Pretty means pretty. Cute means pretty, but short or hyperactive – like me!

Lisa: Then what's beautiful?

Beth: Beautiful means pretty & tall.

Lisa: Gorgeous?

Beth: Pretty with great hair.

Lisa: Striking?

Beth: Pretty with a big nose.

Lisa: Sexy?

Beth: Pretty and easy.

Lisa: Voluptuous?

Beth: Pretty and fat.

Lisa: Exotic?

Beth: Ugly!

Pretty isn't beautiful
Pretty is what changes
What the eye arranges is what is beautiful...

t /Sondheim

Bwah, Hec. I forgot that...I loved that show, though.

I think she's pretty, but not that pretty.

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If Becoming, Pt. 2 loses a deathmatch to anything in S6 or S7 then I quit. (I know that will break a lot of hearts.)

Well not trying to make you quit, but my number one Buffy is and will always be Once More With Feeling. And I'm not even sure Becoming Part 2 would make my actual top 10 (though it would certainly make my top 20 top 10). I know I'd rate The Body, Hush, The Gift, and Passion (along with OMWF) ahead of it.