I didn't watch BoP, but yeah. Beauty has a (visual) depth that pretty doesn't, maybe? I do think Jaclyn Smith straddles the line between pretty and beautiful most successfully.

CC managed to cross it, in the beginning of The Wish, when she was in that spectacular leather outfit--but it wasn't the outfit. It was either her make up, or (maybe even) her acting. She did a great job betraying her pain with her face, and I think that helped.

Pretty has a lot to do with smooth and regular and symmetrical and nothing-out-of-place. KK is pretty. Pretty can also be beautiful, but it isn't necessarily. It's also a juvenile characteristic, and a fairly static one. It has more to do with absence of flaws than with anything really animating the face.

Beautiful, by contrast, is all about life. Beautiful people may have their pretty characteristics, but that's not what makes them distinctive. The sort of people who look good in pictures, but leave you saying, "but the picture doesn't capture what s/he's really like" is beautiful. Allyson Mack is beautiful, as are AH and AD, Gina Torres, Johnny Depp.

Hot gets into some pretty serious YMMV range -- for me, it's sometimes beautiful, but it's almost always the opposite of pretty -- instead, it tends to be strong-featured and quirky and craggy and (in men, anyway) scruffy. It's why I prefer Boromir to Legolas-standing-around, although Legolas-in-action-with-weapons is beautiful and therefore transcends.

I find Charisma Carpenter to be that insanely too-pretty-to-be-human type of pretty

I think she's pretty, but not that pretty. TW is beautiful, but I can't be captivated by him once I saw an interview. He's not bright. That makes him far less attractive. Now, MR? with his wicked wit and sly grin, that's hottitude.

"Newsradio"

Beth: Pretty means pretty. Cute means pretty, but short or hyperactive – like me!

Lisa: Then what's beautiful?

Beth: Beautiful means pretty & tall.

Lisa: Gorgeous?

Beth: Pretty with great hair.

Lisa: Striking?

Beth: Pretty with a big nose.

Lisa: Sexy?

Beth: Pretty and easy.

Lisa: Voluptuous?

Beth: Pretty and fat.

Lisa: Exotic?

Beth: Ugly!

Pretty isn't beautiful
Pretty is what changes
What the eye arranges is what is beautiful...

t /Sondheim

Bwah, Hec. I forgot that...I loved that show, though.

I think she's pretty, but not that pretty.

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If Becoming, Pt. 2 loses a deathmatch to anything in S6 or S7 then I quit. (I know that will break a lot of hearts.)

Well not trying to make you quit, but my number one Buffy is and will always be Once More With Feeling. And I'm not even sure Becoming Part 2 would make my actual top 10 (though it would certainly make my top 20 top 10). I know I'd rate The Body, Hush, The Gift, and Passion (along with OMWF) ahead of it.

For me, Becoming part two loses points for the same reason The Gift loses points - they took back the death that made it meaningful. The Wish doesn't lose points for its reset since the ending is still powerfully heartbreaking on its own terms.

For me, Becoming part two loses points for the same reason The Gift loses points - they took back the death that made it meaningful.

You know, I never saw Becoming Pt. 2 until after Angel had his own show, and it still gets me in the gut every time, and I'll tell you why. It's not *just* Buffy having to send Angel to hell even though he's been re-souled -- it's the fact that she's been expelled from school, she just saw Kendra's corpse, and her mother basically threw her out.

The combination of all that, plus seeing the emotions that cross her face when she realizes Angel is re-souled, is what makes it such a damn good episode for me.