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Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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Narrator - Oct 27, 2003 11:37:12 am PST #6224 of 10001
The evil is this way?

My main distinction between Buffy and Smallville would be that Buffy was good.

Hee.

Also, "Smallville" is not the new "Buffy" -- "Smallville" isn't in "Buffy's" league. "Smallville" is the new "Roswell" only without the massive suckage that "Roswell" became starting in late Season 1. ("Roswell" went from "star-crossed lovers" to sci-fi to teen angst to incoherent sci-fi to "who-knows-what-the-hell-it-is." Sybil didn't have that many personality shifts.) It seems to me that with "Smallville" theWB either figured out how to hire passable producers or the network stopped messing with the product. But in any event, "Smallville" simply doesn't address the issues or themes that "Buffy" tackled. I think the comparison is because "Smallville" uses the kryptonite meteor shower like "Buffy" used the Hellmouth -- a way to explain some of the strange characters who show up each week. But "Smallville" doesn't do with those characters or its own regulars what "Buffy" did.


tina f. - Oct 27, 2003 11:41:34 am PST #6225 of 10001

I've said this before (and that's right - I'm saying it again). Smallville has three saving graces, IMO.

1. They developed a five-year story arc before the show went on the air. This is key. This is why I am still watching. There is hope that a series arc that well planned out will be worth something in the end.
2. They hired Jeff Loeb to help them out with mini-arcs and to write some eps. His episodes are excellent, it's the actors that generally fuck them up.
3. MR. If it wasn't for Lex (and in this case, a well-acted Lex) - Superman, in both comic and TV incarnations, would be wicked boring.


DebetEsse - Oct 27, 2003 11:50:07 am PST #6226 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I actually have an essay on Smallville that is tina's point 1, without knowing that they had a plan. I continue to hold out hope that as we approach the end-game of the series (especially the big question of Clark/Lex in the non-slashy[like that's at all possible] way), we will look back and things will not only be supported but inevitable (or at least heavily forshadowed) from near the beginning. I have a few theories based on this.

And in the mean time I have point 3 to keep me entertained.

(I do not know on point 2)


Cindy - Oct 27, 2003 11:53:58 am PST #6227 of 10001
Nobody

tina,

You forgot 4.

4.) Tom Welling is most likely the physically prettiest human being ever born, male or female. I don't know when I have seen a prettier person.


P.M. Marc - Oct 27, 2003 11:57:23 am PST #6228 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

4.) Tom Welling is most likely the physically prettiest human being ever born, male or female. I don't know when I have seen a prettier person.

There is someone else. I'm blanking on the name, and can't remember if it is a he or a she, but there's someone out there so pretty that I just short out and get scared of the pretty.

Rats. Who *is* it?


billytea - Oct 27, 2003 11:58:09 am PST #6229 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

There is someone else. I'm blanking on the name, and can't remember if it is a he or a she, but there's someone out there so pretty that I just short out and get scared of the pretty.

Rats. Who *is* it?

If this is a set-up for "Henry Kissinger"...


victor infante - Oct 27, 2003 11:58:34 am PST #6230 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Rats. Who *is* it?

Dwight D. Eisenhower?


tina f. - Oct 27, 2003 11:59:21 am PST #6231 of 10001

I did forget 4 and 5.

5. Lex and Clark's love is the purest love. There is no love purer. It is pure, pure stuff. And end to a love so pure would for sure make the baby Jesus cry.


Steph L. - Oct 27, 2003 11:59:24 am PST #6232 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Rats. Who *is* it?

Me, darling.


P.M. Marc - Oct 27, 2003 11:59:29 am PST #6233 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Phhhbt! No. (directed at Billytea)

Argh! Driving me nuts, it is. Total TotT going on here.