Love makes you do the wacky.

Willow ,'Beneath You'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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§ ita § - Oct 27, 2003 9:01:48 am PST #6186 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My main distinction between Buffy and Smallville would be that Buffy was good.

Although I watch and enjoy Smallville, where's its Suprise/Innocence? Where's its Prophecy Girl? And Buffy had more than hit its stride by S3. S2 kicked ass.


sumi - Oct 27, 2003 9:03:24 am PST #6187 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Yeah, Smallville can sometimes come up with a good idea -- but it doesn't follow through. I don't know whether this is because it is hampered by a high number of beginning actors who don't seem to be catching on -- or if it's the writing or direction or what.


Vortex - Oct 27, 2003 9:09:24 am PST #6188 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I don't know whether this is because it is hampered by a high number of beginning actors who don't seem to be catching on -- or if it's the writing or direction or what.

yes.


Cindy - Oct 27, 2003 9:11:46 am PST #6189 of 10001
Nobody

tina, I miss my show, too.

I'm fairly new to Smallville. It passes the time. It amuses, but as ita notes, I haven't caught whiff of any greatness (granted, I haven't been around long enough), there's no wordsmithing, and, without spoiling it, I thought this past episode was really derivative of BtVS. Drew G. wrote it, so I could have been hyper-sensitive to that charge in the first place.


Nutty - Oct 27, 2003 9:13:06 am PST #6190 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Smallville is to Buffy as Hershey's is to Valrhona. It'll do, but it's not the good stuff. I think that's how its internet following sees it.

Okay, I can actually make it all the way through a Hershey bar without changing the channel.


sumi - Oct 27, 2003 9:15:30 am PST #6191 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Oh, it definitely was -- and they've done it before. It's just that -- this is it's 3rd season -- think of what Buffy was doing in Season 3. . . and what it had done in Season 4.

(Oops, I meant season 2!)


P.M. Marc - Oct 27, 2003 9:18:08 am PST #6192 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Yeah, Smallville can sometimes come up with a good idea -- but it doesn't follow through. I don't know whether this is because it is hampered by a high number of beginning actors who don't seem to be catching on -- or if it's the writing or direction or what.

It's HNoBA factor is about the same as Buffy's, and a lot of the core cast (outside of TW and KK) are very talented. However, I think the goal with Smallville is not at all the same as the goal with Buffy, so the Smallville PTB are more than happy with where the show is at. It's popular with both critics and the audience, gets praises sung and rung for the wholesome factor, and with the combination of a more episodic formula and broader plot brush strokes, it has a wider general appeal than Buffy.

The ideas won't ever be exceptionally daring or go to the Hard Places in the same way that BtVS, because that's counter to the Smallville raison d'etre.


DebetEsse - Oct 27, 2003 9:28:24 am PST #6193 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Plei: HNoBA ?

Otherwise, I agree, although it makes me sad, because there's so much potential in the concept.

Question: What are the 3 ways that the scythe kills mosters? The axe-thing, the stake, and what else? I thought Buffy said 3 at some point.


Cindy - Oct 27, 2003 9:29:58 am PST #6194 of 10001
Nobody

Debet, it scares me that I figured this out, but: HNoBA=high number of beginning actors


smonster - Oct 27, 2003 9:30:28 am PST #6195 of 10001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

My main distinction between Buffy and Smallville would be that Buffy was good.

I *heart* ita. Such Xander-like economy of word.