Mal: Does she understand that? River: She understands. She doesn't comprehend.

'Objects In Space'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

This is where we talk about Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No spoilers though?if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it. This thread is NO LONGER NAFDA. Please don't discuss current Angel events here.


P.M. Marc - Oct 14, 2003 7:24:00 am PDT #6047 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Ah. See, this I disagree with. I don't give either of them a moral pass for being Super People, and I was increasingly disturbed by her habit of smacking Spike around every time she saw him pre-relationship. I mean, if he's evil and needs killing, kill him.

I don't see it as a moral issue so much as a nod to genre tropes. To me, it's morally neutral and kind of funny, and very much Tom and Jerry.

Plus, it wound up backfiring on her, when Tom Spike hit back and discovered that gee, he could. And without that pesky pain.


Katie M - Oct 14, 2003 7:25:28 am PDT #6048 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Yeah, there are shows that I'd handle like that too. Buffy doesn't happen to be one of them, but I see where you're coming from.


P.M. Marc - Oct 14, 2003 7:25:39 am PDT #6049 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Don't read these people any more, Plei. You could be writing me some more Sunrise.

But I was *soooooooo* sucked into the two hundred post Spike flamewar I found in Usenet archives. Sooooo sucked into it.

I *did* work on it yesterday.


P.M. Marc - Oct 14, 2003 7:30:13 am PDT #6050 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Yeah, there are shows that I'd handle like that too. Buffy doesn't happen to be one of them, but I see where you're coming from.

I think I handle it like that because it seems like the show creators do. I mean, they're big old goobs, and it shows in the writing, especially on BtVS. (AtS, there are nods, but more in the offhand reference way than the actually making it onto the screen way.)

It seems that a lot of things I accept as neat genre twists piss people off (including the end of Chosen, with the Slayer Powering), so it could be that my POV is just overtly nerdy.


Holli - Oct 14, 2003 7:51:44 am PDT #6051 of 10001
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

t struggles to comprehend concept of non-nerd POV

t fails


Narrator - Oct 14, 2003 7:51:44 am PDT #6052 of 10001
The evil is this way?

Narrator, do you have a superkink we should be aware of?

I keep my superkinks to myself, thankyouverymuch.

Does Xander. In a Speedo. Wet. count? Because Narrator's well known for that kind in places of Bronze.

*cough* Well, except maybe one or two.


Steph L. - Oct 14, 2003 9:11:39 am PDT #6053 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

very much Tom and Jerry.

You misspelled "Itchy and Scratchy."


P.M. Marc - Oct 14, 2003 9:16:38 am PDT #6054 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

You misspelled "Itchy and Scratchy."

Feh. I was going for the primary source material (which I'm certain probably isn't, but still.)


Steph L. - Oct 14, 2003 9:23:39 am PDT #6055 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Heh. I just think Itchy and Scratchy's perfection of mutilation is much more Spike N Buffy.


Pinwiz - Oct 14, 2003 10:01:14 pm PDT #6056 of 10001
Missing in action since 2002...

Jane Espenson. Gilmore Girls.

I liked. Quite a touching episode, once you got over the urge to kick Taylor in the privates.