I decided that for S8 Buffy I am going back to being a spoiler whore again....man after seeing how many great story lines they are headed towards by mid season I am so glad that UPN paid SMG 1.5 Million bucks an episode so she would commit to another season.
You're not gonna jokey-rhyme your way out of this one.
Willow ,'Sleeper'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
This is where we talk about Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No spoilers though?if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it. This thread is NO LONGER NAFDA. Please don't discuss current Angel events here.
Gleebo - Oct 08, 2003 6:37:55 am PDT #6008 of 10001
"God...my brilliance is now becoming a bit of a burden...get back to me." Dr. Cox - Scrubs
Narrator - Oct 08, 2003 7:24:18 am PDT #6009 of 10001
The evil is this way?
Until the writers put Xander in a Speedo.Wet again (Yea, "Go Fish") I am still not watching the new season.
Cass - Oct 08, 2003 7:25:25 am PDT #6010 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
Hey, just cuz it's imaginary doesn't mean you can play willy-nilly with the rules. You want to post imaginary spoilers? Post 'em on the imaginary spoiler threads!Snerk!
Fred Pete - Oct 08, 2003 8:43:24 am PDT #6011 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.
You want to post imaginary spoilers? Post 'em on the imaginary spoiler threads!
Or at least be so over the top that nobody'll believe you anyway.
JenP - Oct 08, 2003 9:40:47 am PDT #6012 of 10001
Hey, just cuz it's imaginary doesn't mean you can play willy-nilly with the rules. You want to post imaginary spoilers? Post 'em on the imaginary spoiler threads!
Imaginary spoiler thread? There's an imaginary spoiler thread? Buffistas think of EVERYthing.
What? Oh -- actually, I really just mean ... double snerk!
despite the fact there are supposed to be a lot of Slayers to teach
I'm just glad they figured out how to make this point without having the newbies underfoot all the freaking time -- like with the potentials. (Have I mentioned, Yay! No Kennedy!! lately?)
Vortex - Oct 08, 2003 9:46:02 am PDT #6013 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
(Have I mentioned, Yay! No Kennedy!! lately?)
except in that damn tampon commercial. where she's wearing white pants. I mean, who would do that! White pants on a field trip with children. Don't think so!
DCJensen - Oct 08, 2003 10:00:22 am PDT #6014 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.
Emma caulfield said she was through with Buffy, so I'm assuming the spoiler was in err. ;)
Holli - Oct 08, 2003 10:45:53 am PDT #6015 of 10001
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore
I have to say, I'm really amused that Andrew has become the de facto babysitter for the mini-est of the mini-Slayers. That shot in the promo of him coming out of their playroom with a ripped-open giant teddy bear on his head? Comedy. Gold.
Cindy - Oct 08, 2003 11:47:09 am PDT #6016 of 10001
Nobody
Cindy - I like your thinking, though I don't agree with it. This could be a good discussion. Do you want to move it over to Grrr. Arrggh? It's not really a good middle of a death match discussion (although I'll be better able to engage after about 5:30 EST)
Jenny, from Quotables...
I am probably getting off line soon. My dh and I are going out at 6ish, EST, and I have to feed the kids, but post when you can. It's not like I don't always come back like a bad check.
Jenny_G - Oct 08, 2003 12:01:04 pm PDT #6017 of 10001
One eye out for highway danger, the other out for fruit. - fr. Martin Mull's Truckdrivin' Songs for the Eight Basic Food Groups
Cindy in Quotables:
By the way, "To kill this girl, you have to love her," may just be the entire series, summed up in one line
Jenny in Quotables:
Where do you get that?
Or did the Master love Buffy? And I guess the end of The Gift was a demonstration of self-love? OK, maybe I'll buy the second, because, well, Dawn was made of Buffy, but still . . .
Cindy in Quotables
I wasn't being quite that literal, but Buffy? Her heart's gotta be on the line for her to win, and when it's on the line, she is also more likely to lose.
I'll buy that as an argument for "To kill this girl, she has to love YOU." But not the other way around.
WRT the Master killing her, Buffy was 16 and didn't want to die and was killed by the Master, because her heart wasn't in it.
But that says nothing about the Master's feeling for Buffy. His love for her or lack of love for her was completely irrelevant - it's all about Buffy's own sense of self & self-preservation. According to Spike (in Fool for Love) this is so for ALL slayers.
The Gift wasn't a demonstration of self-love, but it was love that caused her to sacrifice herself for her sister. Buffy fights (lives, loses, wins) because of her heart.
OK, I get that. And certainly her interactions with Kendra and Faith bear this out. She's a better slayer because she lets her passions feed her. I'm just having a really tough time seeing how that relates to "To kill this girl, you have to love her," which seems to me to be more about Angelus than about Buffy. It's about HIS obsession. If I'm missing something her, you'll have to go slow till I get it.
The way you get to her (for good and for evil), is through her heart. Season seven reaffirmed that idea, but it's pretty much always been there.
Again, I don't see this being a theme in S7. You'll have to spell it out for me. Because to me, Season 7 said that the way you get to Buffy is to make her friends act like they DON'T love her, same as in Season 4. But I didn't get any love for the Buff coming from either Adam or FE as they were doing this.
It's quite possible I'm totally misconstruing what you mean to say - like I said, you'll need to break it down for me.