Right. Sir. Honey.

Zoe ,'The Train Job'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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Fred Pete - Sep 12, 2003 11:20:13 am PDT #5547 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Yes, the Slayer gig is an unlucky roll of the dice

Is it, necessarily? Imagine being a girl in a culture where women are expected to shut up and bear children for the husbands their parents picked out for them at age 5. Compared to that, a more assertive woman might see the Slayer as an attactive option.


Cindy - Sep 12, 2003 11:23:17 am PDT #5548 of 10001
Nobody

How is it oranges? They are soldiers, she is a soldier.

She is alone. They have bands of brothers.

They are forced to go to war, she is coerced to go to war.

They have at least a promised end date, while she does not.

They both could flee to Canada, and while we suspect the Council would try to kill her to force the line to continue, they didn't hunt her in LA between Becoming and Anne/DMP, so clearly there is slack.

Faith had already been called by the time Buffy fled to LA. It was an unusual situation to have even two soldiers.

Soldiers who retired from WW2 and other big conflicts were the exceptionally lucky ones. How many units were completely wiped or suffered enormous casualties?

How many more died than lived? Do you have stats?

Signed,

Daughter of a WWII and Korean Navy Veteran, granddaughter of two WWI army veterans

What I am saying is that they are signed up under completely different circumstances, fight in completely different ways, and one goes in with the hope of getting out (and knows plenty of others have before him) and living the rest of his life a free man.

The slayer is called, told she's the only one, and is in it until she dies.

How do you like them apples? :)


victor infante - Sep 12, 2003 11:24:20 am PDT #5549 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Or was, when Wesley and Giles weren't the only watchers on this earth (to my knowledge).

Interesting question. Just how many Watchers ARE left? Wes, Giles, Robson, that guy that works for W &H...


Cindy - Sep 12, 2003 11:25:48 am PDT #5550 of 10001
Nobody

cereal...

The Slayer gets to be a "hot chick with superpowers" to take the load off. Post-traumatic stress, amputations, Gulf War syndrome -- very very few come back unharmed to a "normal" life even if they live.

And if she lives to 25, she's damned lucky, and nobody in her world can know what she does, she doesn't get pay. She doesn't get a pension. She doesn't get a parade.

Is it, necessarily? Imagine being a girl in a culture where women are expected to shut up and bear children for the husbands their parents picked out for them at age 5. Compared to that, a more assertive woman might see the Slayer as an attactive option.

Yes, in individual circumstances, I would imagine there were always slayers who were grateful for the rescue from their culture's expectations and demands, but what about the traditional women who wanted to live those lives? What about the women who were ostracized because of their strength?


P.M. Marc - Sep 12, 2003 11:27:24 am PDT #5551 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

We don't know that Giles really bothered to tell the Council that she'd taken off. My assumption would be that he didn't.

Or was, when Wesley and Giles weren't the only watchers on this earth (to my knowledge).

IIRC, the guy Giles went to see is still around, as is Sirk, the ex-Watcher at W&H.

So at least four, probably more.


Cindy - Sep 12, 2003 11:27:53 am PDT #5552 of 10001
Nobody

Over-posty c'est moi...

Interesting question. Just how many Watchers ARE left? Wes, Giles, Robson, that guy that works for W &H...

A.) This leads me to a question I've had for you Victor, since my lurker days. You wrote a BtVS story or possibly script. I happened upon while lurking. Do you still have it online? I never finished it, and am working on something in my WIP, and want to make sure I'm not copying your story.

  • eta* It featured Giles' grandmother, I think.

B.) Do we know if Giles' father and grandmother are dead? We know Wesley's dad is still alive. They might all be retired, but could be pulled back in.


P.M. Marc - Sep 12, 2003 11:28:14 am PDT #5553 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Interesting question. Just how many Watchers ARE left? Wes, Giles, Robson, that guy that works for W &H...

Victor, stop READING MY MIND!


tina f. - Sep 12, 2003 11:31:55 am PDT #5554 of 10001

Confession: the only fanfic I have ever written is about Giles' grandmother. It has to do with my Giles-in-hell theory.

Hey! - Who wants to hear my Giles-in-hell theory again!!!???

t crickets


victor infante - Sep 12, 2003 11:32:27 am PDT #5555 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Victor, stop READING MY MIND!

Can't. It seems to be sitting here in my head.

This leads me to a question I've had for you Victor, since my lurker days. You wrote a BtVS story or possibly script. I happened upon while lurking. Do you still have it online? I never finished it, and am working on something in my WIP, and want to make sure I'm not copying your story.

Should both be up off here:

[link]

Also, while my script introduces Giles' mother, and my recent Buffy/Manchild fic alleges MC's James (played by ASH) as Giles' cousin, and one of the novelizations says that Giles' father is dead, there has never been any canon indication that any of Giles' family is living or dead.


Cindy - Sep 12, 2003 11:32:59 am PDT #5556 of 10001
Nobody

I'll hear it, tina, and do you have a link to your fic.

Do we know if Giles grandmother and dad are still living?

eta...

Thanks, Victor.

and...

Also, while my script introduces Giles' mother, and my recent Buffy/Manchild fic alleges MC's James (played by ASH) as Giles' cousin, and one of the novelizations says that Giles' father is dead, there has never been any canon indication that any of Giles' family is living or dead.

I don't count the novelizations. I read your Manchild crossover, in fact, I Nillied it in B.fic. It was lovely!