Spike: Heard what happened up top, offing your dad and all. Don't know if you know this, but, uh…I killed my mum. Actually, I'd already killed her, and then she tried to shag me, so I had to-- Wesley: Thank you. I'm…very comforted.

'Lineage'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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sumi - Sep 04, 2003 4:44:19 am PDT #5371 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Well, that's what makes it great, isn't it?

I don't really know what to say - - I don't want to say nothing, but it's still difficult to believe that there won't be more Buffy.

I re-watched my "Chosen" tape last night (I've already crammed my Tuesdays full of stuff. . . well, if UPN had continued to run Buffy at the traditional hour it wouldn't have been a problem) and there are so many great little things -- the Faith/Wood scene (watching Angel made me wish hard for more Wes/Faith -- but Faith/Wood could have been great too); the Angel scenes, Buffy and Dawn after Dawn comes back, the little allusion to the end of WTTH/The Harvest. .. you know what I mean.


Jim - Sep 04, 2003 5:12:05 am PDT #5372 of 10001
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

Graduation Day.

Which is a full stop on Buffy 1.0


Frankenbuddha - Sep 04, 2003 5:25:04 am PDT #5373 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Graduation Day.

Which is a full stop on Buffy 1.0

If that's in refrence to my post, Jim, I'd disagree - college is in the offing as a big unknown (but not for Xander or Cordy) and Angel's left for L.A. Certainly no less of a WDWGFH than Restless.


DavidS - Sep 04, 2003 7:50:29 am PDT #5374 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It occurred to me after signing off last night - has there ever been a season-ender on Buffy where "Where do we go from here?"

And most season openers have Buffy in a state of some angst over her role as slayer. In part because Buffy's renewal status was often up in the air, Joss shot each season to end and be complete for the whole series. S1 or S2 or S3 or S5 or S7 all work as series finales. Buffy vs Dracula is the only opener that doesn't have a fair measure of angst, and that does include some dark foreshadowing.

Contrastingly, Angel tends to wind up the season arc early and use the end of the season to launch the premise for the next season. It's always reinventing itself.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 04, 2003 12:07:46 pm PDT #5375 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Like Madonna. Hmm, suddenly the rotating cast of supporting hotties, abundant subtext, developing focus on parenthood, and horrible acting in the wake of a bleach job all seem to make more sense.


Allyson - Sep 04, 2003 12:47:12 pm PDT #5376 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Dear god, Matt. You've really got something, there. Angel is really the story of Madonna's life. Suddenly, Cordy's costumes, and dating a fetus make sense.


DavidS - Sep 04, 2003 12:54:15 pm PDT #5377 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Suddenly, Cordy's costumes, and dating a fetus make sense.

That was a date? Rain of fire? Or are you just drawing from your own lovelife for comparison?


Sean K - Sep 04, 2003 1:07:45 pm PDT #5378 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Wow. Just catching up in this thread two days after the fact, I got all friggin' choked up over an event that didn't even register at the time.

We'll always have Sunnydale... (okay, well, no, but I think y'all know what I'm trying to say...)


erikaj - Sep 04, 2003 1:11:04 pm PDT #5379 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

"It was the beginning of hundreds of beautiful friendships."(And several couples, lucky bastards.)


tina f. - Sep 04, 2003 1:21:37 pm PDT #5380 of 10001

"It was the beginning of hundreds of beautiful friendships."

And addictions heretofore unimagined by those who would eventually succumb...