He wasn't dead. I think it worked because the trauma was in the act, and the act was never nullified. He was consigned to a long time in hell, compared to which killing might be kind.
My whole life, I've never loved anything else.
Oz ,'Him'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
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§ ita § - Aug 21, 2003 9:23:55 am PDT #5035 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
JenP - Aug 21, 2003 9:30:50 am PDT #5036 of 10001
He wasn't dead.
Also true. For me, it works because she thought that's what she'd done until she discovered otherwise (having said that, if she'd known she had sent him to hell for 100 years -- also bad, also would've worked if known at the time. But I think her thinking she had killed him worked better for me in terms of the finale's impact. On me). It continues to work for me after they discover he's alive because of ...
the trauma was in the act, and the act was never nullified. He was consigned to a long time in hell
Edited because some of that made no sense to me on re-read.
Glamcookie - Aug 21, 2003 10:16:23 am PDT #5037 of 10001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister
My conversion story:
I watched bits of some Season 2 eps as I had heard the show was great but I did not see it then. I watched a few minutes and was like, "Lame teen show." (One of the eps I saw a bit of was Halloween, FWIW.) Then I heard about Willow/Tara and decided I needed to tune in (it's not every day that you get girl-on-girl action on TV). I also knew Dawn was coming and it sounded interesting, so I started watching regularly in Season 5, beginning with the 1st ep of the season. Loved Season 5 - having seen everything now, 5 is still my favorite. My ranking (yet again) is 5, 3, 4, 2, 6, 7, 1.
Rayne - Aug 21, 2003 12:16:51 pm PDT #5038 of 10001
"Oh no! Has falling sky liquid once again caused you the sadness?" -Starfire
Oh! Lots of catching up!
Earlier someone asked about what happened so that the Pylea arc had to be written. My understanding is that someone (Fox?) told ME to cut costs - so no more Darla.
My conversion story - no conversion. I started with the first episode because I like SMG from AMC. I never taped a show to keep before Buffy, and for some reason I taped the very first ep, taped the rest, and never looked back. I knew it was something special during The Pack when they ate the principal! and I became addicted after Prophecy Girl.
Favorite seasons 3, 2, 5, 4, 1, 6, 7 (and 7 is by far the last!)
Finales:
Restless
Becoming
Graduation Day
The Gift
Prophecy Girl
Chosen
Grave
Openers:
When She Was Bad
Anne
Buffy v. Dracula
WTTH
The Freshman
Bargaining
Lessons
tina f. - Aug 21, 2003 12:34:43 pm PDT #5039 of 10001
So I had an hour at work today that was actually FREE and not just me not doing work when I was supposed to be doing work.
To fill it, I made a list of everybody's last lines from Chosen. No, I don't know why I chose to do this, but here you go:
Amanda: Buffy?
Andrew: She was incredible. She died saving my life.
Angel: I ain't getting any older.
Anya: Bunnies. Floppy, hoppy, bunnies.
Buffy: The Smile/"Spike."
Caleb: Stupid girl. You'll never stop me. You don't have the ba-
Dawn: Yeah Buffy, what are we going to do now?
Faith: Yeah, you're not the one and only Chosen anymore. Just gotta live like a person. How's that feel?
The First: You pulled a nice trick. You came pretty close to smacking me down. What more do you want?
Giles: We have a lot of work ahead of us.
Kennedy: I could get used to this!
Principal Wood: Surprise...
Rona: Really? 'Cause I'm flashing back to Xander's whole bathroom speech.
Spike: I want to see how it ends.
Vi: Look at me! This is nothing! Stay awake! This is nothing!
Willow: Yeah, The First is scrunched so what do you think we
should do, Buffy?
Xander: All those shops, gone. The Gap, Starbucks, Toy R Us? who will remember all those landmarks unless we tell the world of them.
OK somebody post something brilliant about the deeper meaning in Rona's last line. Go!
t really really bored
Glamcookie - Aug 21, 2003 12:40:38 pm PDT #5040 of 10001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister
Finales:
Restless
The Gift
Becoming
Graduation Day
Prophecy Girl
Grave
Chosen
Openers:
Bargaining
The Freshman
Anne
When She Was Bad
Lessons
Buffy v. Dracula
WTTH
Cindy - Aug 21, 2003 1:09:37 pm PDT #5041 of 10001
Nobody
OK somebody post something brilliant about the deeper meaning in Rona's last line. Go!
It's telegraphing Xander's secret cocaine addiction, which nobody would ever discuss.
Steph L. - Aug 21, 2003 1:47:35 pm PDT #5042 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism
OK somebody post something brilliant about the deeper meaning in Rona's last line. Go!
It's telegraphing Xander's secret cocaine addiction, which nobody would ever discuss.
Which was foreshadowed by the bathroom scene from Xander's dream in Restless.
Wolfram - Aug 21, 2003 1:58:44 pm PDT #5043 of 10001
Visilurking
Cocaine. It's always fun until someone loses an eye.
DCJensen - Aug 21, 2003 2:03:09 pm PDT #5044 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.
Bad Girls just eneded on FX, Consequences is on.
"Who wants a root beer?" - Mayor