Woo-hoo! Wrod Cindy. Why do I post anything? (Note to self: Stop thinking thoughts. Just wait until Cindy thinks and writes them and then nod.)

Willow was manipulative and deceptive through the whole thing because she knew it was wrong.

I'll just be here in Helen's corner.

In other news, dinna think that I'm hating on the Willster. I adore lil' Red, even through my blinding hatred for the Magic!Crack storyline. I'm just pointing out a vital character flaw, much like my own inability to speak without undue obfuscation. It's not like it'd be the first time she did something "for somebody's own good" and turned out to utterly wrongheaded. No blame, baby. Just love and understanding, that's all.

They all stole that from Sports Night

Hi, Daniel, there's a few lads want a word about that. Sam Beckett, Harold Pinter, David Mamet, Tom Stoppard.

She didn't want to know that Buffy was in heaven, so she didn't ask herself the hard question, and didn't try to determine the answer.

I don't think that it was such a leap (har!) to think that Buffy was in Hell, after all, she did jump off of the tower into an abyss leading to a hell dimension.

Didn't she leap into a rift between all dimensions?

And isn't physical location different from death? Every time anyone's actually been to a hell dimension, they've been alive.

And isn't physical location different from death? Every time anyone's actually been to a hell dimension, they've been alive.

Also? Their bodies were sucked in with them. Buffy's lifeless body very much stayed here.

Which was where Willow really screwed up. She forgot that Buffy's body was STILL IN THE COFFIN, and that her spell would bury Buffy alive.

Which was where Willow really screwed up. She forgot that Buffy's body was STILL IN THE COFFIN, and that her spell would bury Buffy alive.

Well, I think they planned on digging her up, but those pesky demon bikers interrupted. Who knows - maybe the part of the spell that didn't get finished would have gotten her out of the ground for them.

shrugs

And isn't physical location different from death? Every time anyone's actually been to a hell dimension,

Oh, I'm with you. But I'm saying that it wasn't unreasonable for her to think that Buffy was in hell.

Oh, I'm with you. But I'm saying that it wasn't unreasonable for her to think that Buffy was in hell.

No. It was unreasonable of her to not question other possibilities as well, particularly since this time, there was a body. She had the whole freakin' summer, and Anya is the one who tracked down the urn on e-bay. I'm just sayin'... Willow acted rashly, without thinking things through to her usual Willowy level, in part, because she wanted to exert the power necessary to raise the dead. In part. I know she had altruistic, and selfish (not in the power-sense, but 'selfish' in the sense of scared to death and in mourning) reasons to raise Buffy, too. But she didn't think it all out, because she didn't want to find out anything that might have stopped her. It's exactly why she didn't tell Giles, Spike and Dawn, and why she didn't let Tara and the others know that the spell required the blood of an innocent.

Well, I think they planned on digging her up...

Yeah, I seem to remember them carrying shovels, but if I were Buffy, I'd be really pissed that they didn't dig me up before starting the spell.