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Natter 78: I might need to watch some Buffy for inspiration

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Apr 18, 2025 8:58:57 pm PDT #6853 of 7137
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Guys, Guys, Guys... I know AI is probably evil, but I had the best win today. ChatGPT helped me write a Python program to rename 100 files with the correct course name instead of the gobbledegook that comes out of the program that creates the files. It helped me figure out how to install Python and run it. It saved me HOURS of opening the files and renaming them and then saving them to Box.

That's impressive! I know AI is being used to make significant breakthroughs in medicine now. And when I went to Josh's memorial, I talked to an attorney who was incorporating high level AI into his law firm, and it sounded like it had a lot of utility.

I'm not sure there's anything intrinsically evil about AI, it was just very unethical in the way it scraped its data.

It is going to eliminate whole bands of jobs though in the fairly near future, and it would be nice if countries started figuring out Universal Basic Income instead of dumping a large chunk of humanity into unemployability, with a gross top layer of have-it-all billionaires and their adjacents.


DavidS - Apr 18, 2025 10:22:58 pm PDT #6854 of 7137
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

As a bonus, I'll add Cintra Wilson's encounter with ChatGPT which kinda blew her mind: [link]


Dana - Apr 19, 2025 6:32:07 am PDT #6855 of 7137
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I'm not sure there's anything intrinsically evil about AI, it was just very unethical in the way it scraped its data.

It's terrible for the environment.


Consuela - Apr 19, 2025 8:05:02 am PDT #6856 of 7137
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

It's terrible for the environment.

Really really really terrible. It burns horrendous amounts of power, and uses up a lot of water. Data centers use more power than all but a handful of countries: [link]

It's one of many reasons I am pretty anti-AI. The actual uses for science are much less destructive because they have smaller, targeted databases. But the big LLMs that are stolen data by Meta and Google? And the use of AI that leads to people using it to "write" and cheat on tests, and in legal briefings? Nah. Count me out.


DavidS - Apr 19, 2025 8:25:42 am PDT #6857 of 7137
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It's terrible for the environment.

Like cars, airplanes and the industrial revolution in general, I think the genie is out of the bottle.

Historically humans have chosen any number of downgrades in quality in exchange for convenience.

It is here. It horrifies me but fascinates me too.

ION, hot diggity damn my coffee is good this morning. I'm already two-thirds done and it's making me sad that it will be empty soon.

I wish I could loop those first few sips for an hour without burning a hole in my stomach.


lisah - Apr 19, 2025 8:33:27 am PDT #6858 of 7137
Punishingly Intricate

It's one of many reasons I am pretty anti-AI. The actual uses for science are much less destructive because they have smaller, targeted databases. But the big LLMs that are stolen data by Meta and Google? And the use of AI that leads to people using it to "write" and cheat on tests, and in legal briefings? Nah. Count me out.

Me too.


Laura - Apr 19, 2025 8:48:04 am PDT #6859 of 7137
Our wings are not tired.

Like cars, airplanes and the industrial revolution in general, I think the genie is out of the bottle.

I know and understand the multitude of reasons to oppose AI, but there is no halting technology. Perhaps safeguards can be imposed, but judging from the changes in only my lifetime, I can only imagine what life will be like in another decade. The change only becomes more rapid. Will we meet George Jetson in my lifetime, maybe? My only hope is that the good outweighs the bad, but change is inevitable.


lisah - Apr 19, 2025 8:49:09 am PDT #6860 of 7137
Punishingly Intricate

Like cars, airplanes and the industrial revolution in general, I think the genie is out of the bottle.

Yeah, no. That’s like saying, “womp womp. Might as well burn coal and drive a gas guzzling SUV. It’s too late to do anything so why not make it worse?”


DavidS - Apr 19, 2025 10:09:18 am PDT #6861 of 7137
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Yeah, no. That’s like saying, “womp womp. Might as well burn coal and drive a gas guzzling SUV. It’s too late to do anything so why not make it worse?”

I'm not saying you're obliged to use it directly or like it, but it's already been widely integrated into just about everything. Even when you're not directly engaged with something like ChatGPT you're interacting with it.

You won't have the kind of choice you'd have between buying an electric vehicle and an oversized pickup because it's being so thoroughly woven into the business structure.

Everywhere there's Capitalism there will be AI because AI eliminates labor costs.


P.M. Marc - Apr 19, 2025 10:15:52 am PDT #6862 of 7137
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I think it's just acknowledging reality. Humanity ain't great when it comes to long-term thinking vs. short-term gains, as Hec says, and AI's unlikely to go anywhere. There are some ways its impact can be lessened [link] but I'm mostly just trying to figure out how to get to retirement age without it replacing me.