Xander, don't speak Latin in front of the books!

Giles ,'Lies My Parents Told Me'


Natter 78: I might need to watch some Buffy for inspiration

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Aug 15, 2026 9:04:22 am PDT #13571 of 13611
That which does not kill you should RUN

Well, phew! That was a hell of a whirlwind of an epic season finale, Midnight Burger!

I got everything I wanted: an explanation for Leif's arm and foot (I was NOT expecting Meesock!), a resolution to the cowcatcher (although that was a little too deus ex machina for my taste), and at least confirmation that Frank is alive, if not rescued. Oh! And Caspar actually said "I love you" to Ava, holy shit!!!

I definitely need to re-listen to it.


JenP - Aug 15, 2026 9:22:21 am PDT #13572 of 13611

Agreed on all of that! I actually laughed out loud when Meesock said, "You forgot to arm it." I have been low key worrying about the cow-catcher ever since he hit send. Ha!

And I love you/I know was awesome and so earned! And she called him Schmoopie at one point way earlier... I thought, "Aw, how cute, and that's probably all we'll get ."

And I really want some adventure time with David, and I have always hoped he'd revisit the transporting lawyer !

And, and, and... so much to love!

I'm glad we actually got to hear Frank and Trinket (sp?) interact, so I was good with putting a pin in Frank. Those two kids are adorbs .


Steph L. - Aug 15, 2026 10:06:48 am PDT #13573 of 13611
That which does not kill you should RUN

I'm glad we actually got to hear

I think I actually ship Trinkett and Frank harder than I shipped Caspar and Ava. I just love them.


JenP - Aug 15, 2026 10:46:30 am PDT #13574 of 13611

Yeah, 100% on the shipping harder part. You can know, by a smidge.


Karl - Aug 15, 2026 12:10:02 pm PDT #13575 of 13611
I adore all you motherfuckers so much -- PMM.

Yay, a weekend I am not spending in one of our local Kaiser hospitals.

I believe I have sprained either a hip flexor or a quadricep. Where's my back-door pilot for a streaming TV series?


Calli - Aug 15, 2026 4:34:46 pm PDT #13576 of 13611
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Yay shunning hospitals, less yay on sprains.

I’m going to my first real estate open house tomorrow. I don’t know if it’s my dream home, but it’s sort of what I’m looking for and in my price range. [link]


DavidS - Aug 15, 2026 4:39:13 pm PDT #13577 of 13611
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I’m going to my first real estate open house tomorrow. I don’t know if it’s my dream home, but it’s sort of what I’m looking for and in my price range. [link]

Cute place! Love the porch.


erikaj - Aug 15, 2026 4:54:56 pm PDT #13578 of 13611
"Somewhere in this building is our talent." Toby Ziegler, my spirit animal

Maybe you could call it back-door if you hurt your glutes. Also, no fair--I've been waiting on my defective close-up a lot longer than you!(Maybe, as a woman, I could work in your room and be a Two-Fer like the guy on 30 Rock--which I can't believe I'm quoting/ referencing because I didn't find it funny all that often.) Somewhere between my sense of humor being genuinely weird and kind of evil and nothing being quite so funny as a super-fan thinks when they're all "OMG, you'll *die*." ETA: Doesn't change the fact that I'm at least a Two-Fer. Maybe another half because some douche online could call me Pocahontas--though probably not *twice*


erikaj - Aug 15, 2026 5:19:57 pm PDT #13579 of 13611
"Somewhere in this building is our talent." Toby Ziegler, my spirit animal

For the record, I've never "checked a box" about that, ever. And the connection is close enough I've always felt a little weird about *not* doing it. I'm not embarrassed, right? But it is only a little, and I wouldn't be saying it because I need anything. (And my grandfather? Kind of the self-hating mixed-breed from the Western...definite proof that I'm not adopted, even though I don't work my shit out by spreading slurs around--he died when I was nine, but the older I get, I *do* feel some commonality there, even though I don't drink and I can't allay people's suspicions by saying I'm Italian. Hard-fought education didn't save him, either, you know?(of all the threads through the generations. Sigh.) By the time I knew him, though, he had a recognizably Native face there was no hiding from(and the person in pop culture that made me think of him, outside of the dad in Smoke Signals, used to be Muhammed Ali, of all people--I was a little kid and he was big, brown, Southern and around a lot.


erikaj - Aug 15, 2026 5:31:21 pm PDT #13580 of 13611
"Somewhere in this building is our talent." Toby Ziegler, my spirit animal

But saying that as a little blonde girl in a wheelchair was a way to make my special *teachers* think I was weird, too. Not just the kids. But you really don't know what everyone's grandpa looks like from what they look like.(And it wasn't "My god, twins," just that, to my unformed brain. they shared a vibe or something. And Grandpa *had* been a prizefighter as a young man...he just kind of wasn't good at it. Probably got just the pain and head injuries.) ETA: I hope if there is somewhere Grandpa is, besides in someone's frustrated eyeroll or urge to call someone a son-of-a-bitch, I hope he's been in Eternity long enough not to be freaked out about being compared to a black draft-dodging peace freak. I've always felt good about associating them, even if he might not. But maybe you really do get beyond things. Or maybe I'm here and he's not. Psych.(And maybe he was right when he told my mom "You don't have to do this," about marrying my dad, and I'm supposed to be different, too.