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'Objects In Space'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


-t - Nov 05, 2015 12:44:23 pm PST #8579 of 30003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Aw, too bad, sj.

That is way too many meetings for one day, shrift.


-t - Nov 05, 2015 1:22:50 pm PST #8580 of 30003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

SInce I found my badgem, I went and checked out the candy assortment in the vending machine. 8 choices and none of them Take 5. Way more salty snacks than sweet. I wonder who makes those decisions.


Steph L. - Nov 05, 2015 1:29:18 pm PST #8581 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Oh my god, you guys. I just found out that one of my friends who I've known since high school, who is a gay man (which is significant to the story), was accused by his SiL of inappropriate behavior with his nephew (he also has 2 nieces, but no accusations there). He spent 6 days in jail, until his parents came up with $100,000 for his bond. He goes to court in August.

He moved away from Cincinnati at least 10 years ago to live in the same city his brother and SiL live in, so that he could have a relationship with his nieces and nephew. He's been super involved in their lives and their school.

His brother has always been a wildly homophobic asshole who seemed to barely tolerate Friend simply because they're brothers. Despite knowing that background, I'm stunned about this.

My friend is the kindest person you could ever meet, and absolutely loves his family. He aways loved his brother despite his brother's attitude.

He only told me about what happened via text a little bit ago, so I don't know if his nephew has been questioned, and if so, what his nephew said. I'm just stunned and sickened that his SiL would accuse him of this.


Jesse - Nov 05, 2015 1:30:31 pm PST #8582 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Jesus, that's terrible regardless of what happened.


Sheryl - Nov 05, 2015 1:38:32 pm PST #8583 of 30003
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

The little guy is sleeping in his swing, while I watch some things on the DVR. Gary should be home soonish.(his flight got in an hour or so ago, but who knows how bad traffic is?)


amyth - Nov 05, 2015 1:57:24 pm PST #8584 of 30003
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

Wow, Steph, that's awful.


Steph L. - Nov 05, 2015 2:00:28 pm PST #8585 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I was thinking about this while I was washing the dishes, and here's the thing: in any similar case of allegations of abuse, I believe the kid. I believe Dylan Farrow, not Woody Allen.

But I don't know them. My kneejerk reaction is to believe the friend I know. And I hate the thread of gay panic woven in there -- the accusation that gay teachers/Boy Scout leaders/priests are automatically assumed to be abusers *because* they're gay.

And yet, if this were just another case I saw on the news, I would believe the kid. (Except, because I don't have details -- and I'm not entitled to them -- I don't know what, if anything, my friend's nephew has said.)

This is really ugly.


meara - Nov 05, 2015 2:08:35 pm PST #8586 of 30003

Well, it's just terrible either way--either your friend is screwed, or the poor kid has been through stuff no kid should have to. Either way, bad. :(


-t - Nov 05, 2015 2:18:15 pm PST #8587 of 30003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

How awful! I'm so sorry, Steph. What terrible uncertainty for you to have to carry, and what a sad situation for that family.


Scrappy - Nov 05, 2015 2:37:13 pm PST #8588 of 30003
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Oh, Teppy, how awful. I would be feeling just as you do.