Don't belong. Dangerous, like you. Can't be controlled. Can't be trusted. Everyone could just go on without me and not have to worry. People could be what they wanted to be. Could be with the people they wanted. Live simple. No secrets.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 02, 2016 10:32:36 am PST #16589 of 30003
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

She's a Clinton, and that means she's the devil.

Yeah, I recall a good bit of the hate coming not from misogyny, but resentment that she and Bill came to power as progressives when by rights anyone coming from a backwater state in the South should be firmly mired in the 19th century. The "she should know her place" seems divided between her being a woman and having been First Lady of a small state in the middle of the country rather than the coasts or Texas.


Zenkitty - Mar 02, 2016 10:38:11 am PST #16590 of 30003
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Doesn't really make any more sense, that.


Connie Neil - Mar 02, 2016 10:43:13 am PST #16591 of 30003
brillig

"How dare these hicks from the Ozarks act like they're the equals of world leaders--and be respected in return!" Classism runs deep in this country as well, defined by money and contacts.


Zenkitty - Mar 02, 2016 10:49:19 am PST #16592 of 30003
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Yeah, America is not a classless society, our classes just aren't defined by titles and hereditary landownership.


Tom Scola - Mar 02, 2016 10:56:07 am PST #16593 of 30003
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Because of the TV show, I've been thinking about the OJ trial a lot lately, and I'm amazed at what a perfect shitstorm of race, gender, and class it was. It just brought to the foreground everything that Americans like to pretend doesn't exist.


Connie Neil - Mar 02, 2016 11:14:44 am PST #16594 of 30003
brillig

a perfect shitstorm of race, gender, and class

Oh, yeah: rich male vs black male, insanely popular athlete vs black man with a white woman.


Dana - Mar 02, 2016 12:00:22 pm PST #16595 of 30003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

It is time for me to leave, but I am entering hour three of a conference call with my coworker, who is currently showing me every page of a 7-page document she edited. You'd think this might be a fast process, but it is not.


Dana - Mar 02, 2016 12:11:02 pm PST #16596 of 30003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

stop talking stop talking stop talking


-t - Mar 02, 2016 12:15:42 pm PST #16597 of 30003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Come on, coworker of Dana!

The people I know who are anti-Clinton, it's because of her corporate ties. Which seems like a legitimate beef, but surely pales next to any given Republican.


Dana - Mar 02, 2016 12:15:49 pm PST #16598 of 30003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

oh god, she's opening another document