I am not...I am not the damsel in distress. I am not some case. I have to work this. I've lived in a cave for 5 years in a world where they killed my kind like cattle. I am not going to be cut down by some monster flu. I am better than that. What a wonder...how very scared I am.

Fred ,'A Hole in the World'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Tom Scola - Feb 02, 2016 6:03:32 am PST #14640 of 30003
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

how in the world does that make him an "outsider candidate?"

It turns out that everybody—everybody—in Washington DC hates him. Republican and Democrat alike.


Laura - Feb 02, 2016 6:04:44 am PST #14641 of 30003
Our wings are not tired.

I'd like the GOP to end up nominating someone that isn't batshitcrazy. In theory the worse they put up there the better my side's chance in November, but too many previous elections have proven me wrong. My very first vote was for McGovern against Nixon. I couldn't believe that he wouldn't win. Lesson one.


Steph L. - Feb 02, 2016 6:07:47 am PST #14642 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

It turns out that everybody—everybody—in Washington DC hates him. Republican and Democrat alike.

That was Tim's guess, but we didn't know if universal hatred was enough to confer "outsider" status. Fair enough.

I'd like the GOP to end up nominating someone that isn't batshitcrazy.

Maybe Strickland, but he doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell of getting the nomination.


-t - Feb 02, 2016 6:22:00 am PST #14643 of 30003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

"Outsider" as in "not mainstream"? Cult-favorite candidates.


Connie Neil - Feb 02, 2016 6:25:17 am PST #14644 of 30003
brillig

I've been expecting Rubio and Cruz to play up their appeal to the Hispanic demographic. Or have I missed it?


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 02, 2016 6:30:15 am PST #14645 of 30003
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Cruz called the Majority Leader Mitch McConnell a liar on the Senate floor this year, and in 2014 spearheaded the effort to vote down ratifying the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons With Disabilities in front of Bob Dole. He makes me wax nostalgic about Christopher Walken's take on the Presidential race in The Dead Zone.

This will give you some idea about Cruz' popularity with his peers: [link]


brenda m - Feb 02, 2016 6:38:07 am PST #14646 of 30003
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

The big money players in the GOP like the Kochs etc. also hate him. Ergo, outsider. Doesn't seem to be hurting him much.


Connie Neil - Feb 02, 2016 6:40:50 am PST #14647 of 30003
brillig

The outsider thing gives him appeal to a certain demographic.


askye - Feb 02, 2016 6:43:36 am PST #14648 of 30003
Thrive to spite them

Connie I don't think they will. Maybe Rubio but nit Cruz he's already got Birther conspiracis floating around him and bringing up his father is Cuban will bring up the fact that he was born in Canada.

Not sure about Rubio but Cruz has painted Rubio as soft on illegal immigration.

I really need to stop watching TV the only political ads I see are Cruz some Rubio and the occasional JEB! although JEB!'s usually are attack ads by PACS that don't mention his name.


Connie Neil - Feb 02, 2016 6:44:47 am PST #14649 of 30003
brillig

I have to say, political conversations in my department are very refreshing, because even the conservatives are reasonable, and there are several liberals around. And they're all informed or at least aware of how political maneuvering works.