Giles: Helping out with the dishes makes me feel useful. Dawn: Wanna clean out the garage with us Saturday? You could feel indispensable.

'Dirty Girls'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


esse - Dec 07, 2015 8:14:21 pm PST #10845 of 30003
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Tough way to duck back into the thread. I have a very shiny memory of Ginger in my head, her standing next to a window with a huge smile and a drink of some nature in her hand. She is such a vibrant person, and I learned so much from her just by being in her presence.

I am pretty numb, but I am wearing my tiara and raising my whiskey in honor of her.

I love all ya'll and think of you daily.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 07, 2015 8:38:18 pm PST #10846 of 30003
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I was thinking earlier how unfair it is that the brightest lights always seem to be taken from us too soon, and then realized that regardless of the actual timing it's always too soon because they're the brightest lights.

Rest in peace, Ginger.


Fiona - Dec 07, 2015 9:00:51 pm PST #10847 of 30003

I never met Ginger, never even saw a picture. But she was a voice of reason, and the way she dealt with her health issues was inspiring.

So sorry her story has ended way too soon.


NoiseDesign - Dec 07, 2015 9:34:11 pm PST #10848 of 30003
Our wings are not tired

Ginger I will miss you.

I realized during my drive back to Pasadena from Irvine tonight that I'm pretty sure the last time I saw Ginger in person was in Madison right after I got the news about my Dad being sick.

The world is less without her.

Tonight is a sad night.


Shir - Dec 07, 2015 9:43:00 pm PST #10849 of 30003
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

At work, with socks and everything. So cannot cry, and have to try and focus.

But this morning I was reading here before I left home for work, sobbing. Every word you wrote here is true. The way Ginger reached out was... grace is the word comes to mind. Grace and reason. To quote Nilly, as if anybody is capable of it.

Darlings, I am here for those of you who will not be able to sleep. Much love to all. Please take care. I once again offer the "I'm in Jerusalem, let me know if any faith-based thingies are needed", for both this family and Ginger's friends and family in the U.S. - Zen, please feel free to pass my offer to them.

WindSparrow - it's a children's song title "We have come to banish the darkness". You can listen to it here: [link] We have come to banish the darkness/in our hands light and fire/each and everyone is a small light/together we are a strong light/move away, darkness, begone dark/move away from the light


Polter-Cow - Dec 07, 2015 9:58:53 pm PST #10850 of 30003
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Sigh.

I didn't know Ginger very well, and I thought I hadn't met her, but if she was at the SF2F, then I must have, though I was new then. I don't have Ginger memories to share, except for that time JZ suggested I get Seanan to send her an advance copy of Blackout back when she first got her diagnosis. I'm glad I got to do a nice thing for someone who's done such nice things for so many.

This year isn't fair.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Dec 07, 2015 10:10:09 pm PST #10851 of 30003
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

I barely knew Ginger, but admired her very much from afar. Much like with ita, really. Why the best people? :(


Shir - Dec 07, 2015 10:15:33 pm PST #10852 of 30003
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Why the best people?

As a friend of mine said two days ago, "because that's who you surround yourself with".

Ginger was the first person who offered to edit my CV and resume in English, when I needed this to be done. She was also my giftee in a Secret Santa few years ago, but I still don't know if she received the things I sent her. I tried to ask several times to know if I should send a replacement, but was never answered.

But most of all, she was grace and reason and wisdom in Bitches. I will miss her pixels, very much.

Edited to add: I am also trying not to get angry at things on account of this death. I'm quick to anger, but this is just sadness in disguise. And it's not a very Gingery-thing to do.


Beverly - Dec 07, 2015 10:24:22 pm PST #10853 of 30003
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Let me share something about balance. DC 2004 was the first time I met Ginger, and she made a sheepish confession that she had lurked on the board, particularly in Bitches, for many months while she was in chemo before she decloaked. She was so tired, she said, too tired to type, too tired to make conversation. But those people in the the box, she said, filled her up, gave her hope, made her smile and sympathize, engaged her emotions and her heart. We were her community long before we ever knew there was a Ginger.

So though I'm sure she never thought of it as something as mundane as payback, still she helped those she could, when and as she could, and we had helped her, too.

Never enough, though. Not nearly enough.


Shir - Dec 07, 2015 10:35:53 pm PST #10854 of 30003
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Thank you, Beverly.

And I don't think I said it, so thank you so much, Zen, for communicating the harsh news and for being there for Ginger when she was in the hospital.