Jayne: Captain, can you stop her from bein' cheerful, please? Mal: I don't believe there is a power in the 'verse that can stop Kaylee from being cheerful. Sometimes you just wanna duct tape her mouth and dump her in the hold for a month.

'Serenity'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Atropa - Mar 13, 2013 10:51:15 am PDT #14650 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

If the Catholic Church re-focuses around helping the poor, I'll call it good. Not that I'm Catholic.

Same here.


Trudy Booth - Mar 13, 2013 10:52:01 am PDT #14651 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Jesuits have a reputation for being scholarly, right? And Benedictines have the whole hospitality/welcoming thing? Is it Franciscans who are extra serious about poverty? Any other short hands? What have prior pontiffs tended to be?

My knowledge on this is very higgelty-pigglety.


Connie Neil - Mar 13, 2013 10:53:38 am PDT #14652 of 30001
brillig

I like observing the workings of millennia-old organizations and seeing how the ancient ways creep through.


Steph L. - Mar 13, 2013 10:54:05 am PDT #14653 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Jesuits have a reputation for being scholarly, right?

Super-duperly so. (And, contrary to the new pope's reputation, they tend to live large. My brother's high school was run by Jesuits, and his joke was "I've seen their idea of poverty, so I don't want to know what they consider chastity.")


Maria - Mar 13, 2013 10:54:07 am PDT #14654 of 30001
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

This guy is a scientist. Yeah, he's scholarly. Also more exposed than many other popes to liberation theology.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 13, 2013 10:56:23 am PDT #14655 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

My brother's high school was run by Jesuits, and his joke was "I've seen their idea of poverty, so I don't want to know what they consider chastity.")

The priest down the road from us drove a BMW, and it always confused me. Maybe he was a Jesuit.


Steph L. - Mar 13, 2013 10:57:08 am PDT #14656 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Also more exposed than many other popes to liberation theology.

Definitely so, although he doesn't seem to favor it. Still, he seems to take a pretty hard line on helping the poor.

And I like this, from the NCR profile: "Bergoglio may be basically conservative on many issues, but he's no defender of clerical privilege, or insensitive to pastoral realities. In September 2012, he delivered a blistering attack on priests who refuse to baptize children born out of wedlock, calling it a form of 'rigorous and hypocritical neo-clericalism.'"


Trudy Booth - Mar 13, 2013 10:57:21 am PDT #14657 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

So if you're a priest who's "A Jesuit" do you belong to a certain order that has meetings and vestments and what not? Or is it more of a stated philosophy along the lines of "I'm a Jungian" or "I'm a strict constructionalist".

I know if he were a monk he'd belong to an order.


Steph L. - Mar 13, 2013 10:58:57 am PDT #14658 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

So if you're a priest who's "A Jesuit" do you belong to a certain order that has meetings and vestments and what not?

They're an order (actually the Society of Jesus; "Jesuit" is what members of the order are called).


Trudy Booth - Mar 13, 2013 11:00:24 am PDT #14659 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

In September 2012, he delivered a blistering attack on priests who refuse to baptize children born out of wedlock, calling it a form of 'rigorous and hypocritical neo-clericalism.

My grandfather (all around devout guy, father of eight) refused communion for something like 20 years until the priest who'd refused to baptize my one cousin retired. He'd just sit in the pew and glare at the guy.

So he passes the John Booth would take communion from him test. That's only a plus.