My brother's high school was run by Jesuits, and his joke was "I've seen their idea of poverty, so I don't want to know what they consider chastity.")

The priest down the road from us drove a BMW, and it always confused me. Maybe he was a Jesuit.

Also more exposed than many other popes to liberation theology.

Definitely so, although he doesn't seem to favor it. Still, he seems to take a pretty hard line on helping the poor.

And I like this, from the NCR profile: "Bergoglio may be basically conservative on many issues, but he's no defender of clerical privilege, or insensitive to pastoral realities. In September 2012, he delivered a blistering attack on priests who refuse to baptize children born out of wedlock, calling it a form of 'rigorous and hypocritical neo-clericalism.'"

So if you're a priest who's "A Jesuit" do you belong to a certain order that has meetings and vestments and what not? Or is it more of a stated philosophy along the lines of "I'm a Jungian" or "I'm a strict constructionalist".

I know if he were a monk he'd belong to an order.

So if you're a priest who's "A Jesuit" do you belong to a certain order that has meetings and vestments and what not?

They're an order (actually the Society of Jesus; "Jesuit" is what members of the order are called).

In September 2012, he delivered a blistering attack on priests who refuse to baptize children born out of wedlock, calling it a form of 'rigorous and hypocritical neo-clericalism.

My grandfather (all around devout guy, father of eight) refused communion for something like 20 years until the priest who'd refused to baptize my one cousin retired. He'd just sit in the pew and glare at the guy.

So he passes the John Booth would take communion from him test. That's only a plus.

Okay, so he's the first Francis but the 266th pope?

The NYT announcement confused me. I was imagining 266 Pope Francis'.

They're an order (actually the Society of Jesus; "Jesuit" is what members of the order are called).

So do you go to a Jesuit seminary? Or do you, forgive me, somehow major in Jesuit at whatever seminary?

Yes, I realize that sounds insane.

And does a particular congregation tend to be just one order? Or to they mix it up send different sorts?

I just hope he did not collaborate with the Argentinian government when they were disappearing people. That would be taking the war on Liberation Theology very literally. Though in line with the last Pope being a former Nazi Youth.

Francis is also Raylan Givens' middle name.(His mama was Frances) (/irrelevant heathen who watches too much TV)

I thought the different orders of priests worked sort of like guys who all go to the same university but join different fraternities. Same for nuns. They all believe the same things, but they choose different missions to focus on.

Also a Presbyterian, so I could be wildly wrong.

Okay, even I need the grammar book today.