Don't belong. Dangerous, like you. Can't be controlled. Can't be trusted. Everyone could just go on without me and not have to worry. People could be what they wanted to be. Could be with the people they wanted. Live simple. No secrets.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Mar 13, 2013 10:33:05 am PDT #14642 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Really, a Jesuit? That's pretty cool.

Under the low bar of people opposed to homosexuality, gay rights, contraception and women's rights. I'll have to settle for "Could Be Worse."


Trudy Booth - Mar 13, 2013 10:35:48 am PDT #14643 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'm Presbyterian, I don't have much of a dog in this fight.

Granted, it'll affect billions of people and he's changing his name anyway...


Trudy Booth - Mar 13, 2013 10:43:22 am PDT #14644 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

So, he's going with Francis I

There's never been a Francis? Huh. Someone in Slate letters said its referencing Francis Assisi not Francis Xavier. All I know about those particularly names is that my father (who has the middle name Francis) went with Xavier over Assisi for his confirmation name because he was a 13 year old boy surrounded by 13 year old boys.

I'm guessing that's less of a problem at the Vatican. Hoping? Well, I wouldn't put any money on it.


Steph L. - Mar 13, 2013 10:44:27 am PDT #14645 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Here's a profile NCR did on the new pope last week, when he was still just a contender: [link]

Nice to see that, while he's certainly not a proponent of liberation theology, he seems to walk the talk when it comes to the poor.


Maria - Mar 13, 2013 10:49:36 am PDT #14646 of 30001
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

St. Francis of Assisi was a reformer. I'm hoping the selection of that name means the same thing for the new Pope.

Scola is even worse than Bergoglio, though neither of them have any leg to stand on in regards to what David said upthread. I'll take small incremental improvements.


P.M. Marc - Mar 13, 2013 10:50:10 am PDT #14647 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Nice to see that, while he's certainly not a proponent of liberation theology, he seems to walk the talk when it comes to the poor.

Yeah, they seem to have chosen the lesser evil.


Jesse - Mar 13, 2013 10:50:28 am PDT #14648 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

If the Catholic Church re-focuses around helping the poor, I'll call it good. Not that I'm Catholic.

I didn't realize the Our Father and Hail Mary weren't standard things for a new pope to do until Cokie Roberts told me, so that's cool -- as she said, any little Catholic child could pray along with the pope.


billytea - Mar 13, 2013 10:50:40 am PDT #14649 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

There's never been a Francis? Huh. Someone in Slate letters said its referencing Francis Assisi not Francis Xavier. All I know about those particularly names is that my father (who has the middle name Francis) went with Xavier over Assisi for his confirmation name because he was a 13 year old boy surrounded by 13 year old boys.

I went with Francis of Assisi for my confirmation. Patron saint of animals.


Atropa - Mar 13, 2013 10:51:15 am PDT #14650 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

If the Catholic Church re-focuses around helping the poor, I'll call it good. Not that I'm Catholic.

Same here.


Trudy Booth - Mar 13, 2013 10:52:01 am PDT #14651 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Jesuits have a reputation for being scholarly, right? And Benedictines have the whole hospitality/welcoming thing? Is it Franciscans who are extra serious about poverty? Any other short hands? What have prior pontiffs tended to be?

My knowledge on this is very higgelty-pigglety.