Now, I can hold a note for a long time...actually I can hold a note forever. But eventually that's just noise. It's the change we're listening for. The note coming after, and the one after that. That's what makes it music.

Host ,'Why We Fight'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kat - Feb 29, 2012 6:10:12 pm PST #24501 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Wait, if people don't make a roux, how do you make mac and cheese?


Dana - Feb 29, 2012 6:10:44 pm PST #24502 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Nora, have you ever tried Steen's on fried trout? My great-grandfather used to do that.


Jesse - Feb 29, 2012 6:10:56 pm PST #24503 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I don't know about this feta idea. Does it melt?

Not really, but it softens.

Wait, if people don't make a roux, how do you make mac and cheese?

You just add the milk and butter to the orange powder?


Vortex - Feb 29, 2012 6:11:43 pm PST #24504 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I've seen a recipe for mac and cheese that used cottage cheese.


Nora Deirdre - Feb 29, 2012 6:12:33 pm PST #24505 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Come visit me, Jen! I will put it on your plate!

Re: roux. I need to do it in a pan that's not a cast iron pan, because I can't monitor the subtleties of the roux color and end up pulling it early. Oh! Roux wars: whisk or wooden spoon?


Nora Deirdre - Feb 29, 2012 6:13:05 pm PST #24506 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Dana, no but I'm gonna!


Kat - Feb 29, 2012 6:13:19 pm PST #24507 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Vortex, with buttermilk and shredded sharp cheese? And then baked?


-t - Feb 29, 2012 6:13:41 pm PST #24508 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Wooden spoon! Charismatic wooden spoon, even.


Kat - Feb 29, 2012 6:14:26 pm PST #24509 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Nora, I use either, depending on what's clean. The whisk does work an iota better with less gloppy sticking. I end up making the roux in le creuset pot which is easier to see because of the white enamel.


Nora Deirdre - Feb 29, 2012 6:17:42 pm PST #24510 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

That is exactly what I use, Kat, my Le Crueset Dutch oven. Which is why I use a wooden spoon, so I don't scratch up the enamel. Very prissy of me, I know.