Or fairy tales?
You turned evil a lot faster than I thought you would.
Angel ,'Just Rewards (2)'
Natter 69: Practically names itself.
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Jesse - Feb 17, 2012 5:52:50 pm PST #22637 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
§ ita § - Feb 17, 2012 5:55:50 pm PST #22638 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Someone's pissing on their Disney childhood by killing Ariel by beaching her. Good, because the original ending was all hearts and puppies...on SPIKES, people.
Kat - Feb 17, 2012 5:57:10 pm PST #22639 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
I am often in awe that the rest of you people venture off into other places of the internet AND read the comments. Such bravery.
sarameg - Feb 17, 2012 6:02:49 pm PST #22640 of 30001
Hey, Allyson! Tell Kristen that my friend's daughter (named Nikita) loves the show. I can't believe R lets her watch it (she's like, 7), but apparently so, it's their girltime. They both are fans.
Amy - Feb 17, 2012 6:06:35 pm PST #22641 of 30001
Because books.
The original versions of fairy tales were pretty gruesome. No one remembers anymore that Disney didn't actually create these stories.
§ ita § - Feb 17, 2012 6:15:26 pm PST #22642 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
No one remembers anymore that Disney didn't actually create these stories.
Seriously. I'm weirdly disappointed in how much this article misses the point of fairy stories, and treats Walt like he has any ownership of the plots and characters in other than a transient and mercantile sense.
Meredith replied to me that it's his repetitious implication of them as sexual violations that bothers her, but that just makes the guy one note and unimaginative--Walt Disney is the one that fucked with the stories. This guy is not.
Amy - Feb 17, 2012 6:23:40 pm PST #22643 of 30001
Because books.
In the original Cinderella, the stepsisters cut off their own heels to fit into the glass slipper, and birds (iirc) peck out their eyes after Cinderella has married the prince.
In Sleeping Beauty, the mother of the price who wakes her either tries to eat or actually eats her children.
They were cautionary tales, designed to scare the shit out of little kids so they wouldn't misbehave, and reinforce cultural norms of the time. Not one of them featured singing mice, as far as I know, or wise-cracking lobsters.
I looked at the post, by the way, and I think the artist in question is just not very imaginative or very talented, but he's certainly not doing anything new. And he's certainly not the one tarnishing the stories.
beekaytee - Feb 17, 2012 6:35:17 pm PST #22644 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant
I took a storytelling course as an undergrad. I'll never forget the day our prof, a Methodist minister, growled, "Whaddya think the evil queen was doing with Rapunzel up in that tower?"
We read early translations of the fairy stories shared on the Silk Road. Disney they weren't.
Not a fairy story, but just as shocking...read Felix Salton's original Bambi sometime. It's a harrowing, anti-war screed right up there with Johnny Got His Gun.
Seriously. How anyone read that book and came away with the Disney version, I'll never understand.
le nubian - Feb 17, 2012 6:40:16 pm PST #22645 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
"Whaddya think the evil queen was doing with Rapunzel up in that tower?"
OMG. I'm gonna have Rapunzel nightmares tonight!
JenP - Feb 17, 2012 6:41:32 pm PST #22646 of 30001
Right???