Sometimes a thing gets broke, can't be fixed.

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Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


le nubian - Feb 14, 2012 12:53:53 pm PST #21968 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

So, update on the plagiarism issue.

For our observers at home, you may recall that I had a graduate student who did a whole lot of cut and paste plagiarism in a final paper. I failed her in the class and thus she did not get a passing grade in the course. Her graduation has been postponed until she can take another class.

Well, I understand from a colleague that her advisor is encouraging her to write me an apology note to try to repair the relationship.

What do you all think about this?

I kinda don't want a letter unless it is sincere. The student (as I have heard) still claims not to have known this was plagiarism. So if she is standing by that position, I really don't want a letter.


meara - Feb 14, 2012 12:54:39 pm PST #21969 of 30001

meara, did I miss it? How did the negotiation go?

Well, I asked for X+5-10%, and got more like X+2.5%, but hey, they came up! And I still get the signing bonus (though I have to pay some of it back depending on how long I stay with the company--have to stay 2 years to not pay any back!!). Will be taking about 2 weeks vacation between jobs (though almost half that will be paid by vacation time)


meara - Feb 14, 2012 12:55:55 pm PST #21970 of 30001

Well, I understand from a colleague that her advisor is encouraging her to write me an apology note to try to repair the relationship.

Meh? Repair the relationship like "I'm sorry I did this and I hope you won't badmouth me all over using my name"? Or like "Please change your mind and retroactively give me a new grade"? The former...sure. I mean, if it's un-sincere it's almost worse, but...but the latter fuck no. Take your lumps.


§ ita § - Feb 14, 2012 12:57:53 pm PST #21971 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think it's all about whether or not it's sincere. Sincere regret I think always deserves to be known--it doesn't always deserve any change in behaviour, though.


le nubian - Feb 14, 2012 1:01:02 pm PST #21972 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

meara,

the grade will NEVER be changed. That would take an act of Hera. Hera doesn't work here.


Stephanie - Feb 14, 2012 1:03:28 pm PST #21973 of 30001
Trust my rage

I Think not changing the grade is the right call. But then why is she writing you? Just to say sorry? I just dont see the point. (okay, if I were her, I would be desperate to apologize but if she's not sincere, what's the point??)


smonster - Feb 14, 2012 1:05:00 pm PST #21974 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

meara, sounds pretty good! I hope this turns out to be a better situation for you.

ita ! - that link goes to a page with a number of articles, but about 1/3 of the way down is the video of THard and McG getting shot in the butt with paintball. Which you've seen, no?


aurelia - Feb 14, 2012 1:06:06 pm PST #21975 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

ita, I had to scroll down a bit, but I'm guessing the relevant post has to do with Tom Hardy's posterior and paintball.

The video just makes me shake my head and say, "boys are weird".


Polter-Cow - Feb 14, 2012 1:06:32 pm PST #21976 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

§ ita § - Feb 14, 2012 1:19:45 pm PST #21977 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My naive little sister. Does she really think she'd see his ass before me? Does she think I can't marshal help to get an answer ahead of her coyness? Silly goose.

The video just makes me shake my head and say, "boys are weird".

Well, you know, shocknives. So I don't associate it with boys.

But then why is she writing you? Just to say sorry? I just dont see the point.

Wouldn't you want to say sorry? Or are you sure she's not actually sorry?