And Kaylee, what the hell's goin' on in the engine room? Were there monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys maybe got loose?

Mal ,'The Train Job'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Ginger - Feb 10, 2012 11:24:12 am PST #21313 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Ginger, how long are you willing to fight that fight?

Until she's nauseous?

I do not have that effect on others. Usually.

According to the OED, nauseous entered written English as "feeling ill," but that meaning was later considered obsolete, replaced by nauseated for feeling ill. We apparently rocked along for a while with nauseous meaning "causing nausea" and nauseated meaning "feeling nausea." Then American usage in the 20th century started using nauseating rather than nauseous for "causing nausea," and it all started going to hell.

I do not correct people's spoken English, although when some people say, "I feel nauseous," I think, "You're certainly having that effect on me." I'll probably always change "I feel nauseous" to "I feel nauseated" in written copy. After all, I still care about the distinction between different from and different than.


aurelia - Feb 10, 2012 11:28:28 am PST #21314 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

The only judgement I'm making is that putting bullets in the laptop was wasteful. eta: Well, I also wonder why the arms on that chair are so high, but that's less relevant.

Contrary to common misuse, “moot” doesn’t imply something is superfluous. It means a subject is disputable or open to discussion. e.g., The idea that commercial zoning should be allowed in the residential neighborhood was a moot point for the council.

Common misuse is the only way I've ever heard this word used. Perhaps the meaning has now changed.


Dana - Feb 10, 2012 11:32:09 am PST #21315 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Oh, jesus, we're sitting here while someone scans a QR code.


Ginger - Feb 10, 2012 11:34:39 am PST #21316 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I don't get their problem with moot. Here's the Oxford definition:

adjective

subject to debate, dispute, or uncertainty, and typically not admitting of a final decision: whether the temperature rise was mainly due to the greenhouse effect was a moot point

having no practical significance, typically because the subject is too uncertain to allow a decision: it is moot whether this phrase should be treated as metaphor or not


Dana - Feb 10, 2012 11:37:30 am PST #21317 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

It's a moo point! It's like a cow's point. It doesn't matter.


Amy - Feb 10, 2012 11:38:55 am PST #21318 of 30001
Because books.

It's a moo point! It's like a cow's point. It doesn't matter.

::loves all over Dana::


Ginger - Feb 10, 2012 11:41:31 am PST #21319 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

At least it's not a mute point.


brenda m - Feb 10, 2012 11:41:47 am PST #21320 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I do not correct people's spoken English, although when some people say, "I feel nauseous," I think, "You're certainly having that effect on me." I'll probably always change "I feel nauseous" to "I feel nauseated" in written copy.

Oh yeah, totally different thing. My irk is only directed at the verbal correction.


§ ita § - Feb 10, 2012 11:46:55 am PST #21321 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm not sure why this swing in the definition of nauseous is supposed to be worse than the original swing. Is 100 years ago still too recent?


Amy - Feb 10, 2012 11:48:57 am PST #21322 of 30001
Because books.

With regard to nauseous/nauseated, I don't think I know one person (uh, outside of this board) who uses them correctly.