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Atropa - Feb 03, 2012 9:48:31 am PST #20006 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

"I'm for the cure. What? I like their music!"

Ha! That's exactly where I went. (I"d put on "Friday I'm In Love", but I'm staying with Cass and I know she doesn't like that particular song.)

Didn't Komen actually go after The Cure once?

Holy crap, I hope not.

The subtext is that pink and glitter contaminate anything they touch [with their dangerous femininity].

Which is really, really annoying to us who are very femme AND very feminist. Dammit, I just want sparkly pink kitchen utensils. I don't expect everyone to want them.


javachik - Feb 03, 2012 10:07:22 am PST #20007 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

I'd also be very careful of evaluating trends on dress codes and perception with anecdata from just large cities or the coasts. My cousin Buffy (the one who pops in here from time to time) worked for a computer-related magazine (she did tech reviews) in the 90's and early 2000's that required her to wear skirts and NYLONS to work. I get sick just thinking about it. Especially since the requirement was not relaxed while she was pregnant or while the building's AC unit was on the fritz. This was in Lincoln, NE.


Toddson - Feb 03, 2012 10:14:27 am PST #20008 of 30001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

My sister worked retail for most of her life (she's changed careers) and there was always a dress code. Whens she worked at Saks they required skirts and stockings; even when she'd had a growth removed from her leg and the stockings stuck and caused fairly significant pain, she had to wear stockings.


P.M. Marc - Feb 03, 2012 10:17:41 am PST #20009 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Am I being too much of a stickler?

Depends on your industry and role.

As I'm wearing a dress and tights today, I'm almost at as business formal as I get. But, then, I interviewed in jeans and a turtleneck.

And my daily wear involves Batman lounge pants. People know when I wear a dress that I'm at the end of my laundry.


sumi - Feb 03, 2012 10:18:23 am PST #20010 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

OMG, Tom! I hope that your dad recovers easily.


smonster - Feb 03, 2012 10:18:32 am PST #20011 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

What javachik said.

Also, don't get me started on the preponderance of pink construction shit for women.


Toddson - Feb 03, 2012 10:20:13 am PST #20012 of 30001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

oh Tom! I don't really have anything else to say.

But! you can come back after a stroke - I'm probably younger and I was really lucky, but recovery is possible. FYI, it took me about six to eight months to bounce back.


Lee - Feb 03, 2012 10:21:21 am PST #20013 of 30001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Oh, Tom! Fingers crossed for a Toddson like recovery.


smonster - Feb 03, 2012 10:21:42 am PST #20014 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Oh no, Tom. What a mess.


§ ita § - Feb 03, 2012 10:22:13 am PST #20015 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm including the Midwest and my stint at the job that didn't allow opaque hose in my estimation. Obviously, it's not an exhaustive poll, but between somewhere as incredibly conservative as Detroit (some of the hidebound parts of The South up in the North/Midwest), a country like Jamaica where it was recommended I don't wear red to the office, etc.

I still haven't encountered anyone other than guys who want to fuck me who had any noticeable reaction to my lack of hair or makeup. And they obviously had issues to work through.

That shit's like herpes (seemed like a good idea at the time, gets everywhere, can't get rid of it)

I don't remember the last time herpes seemed like a good idea, but it may just be that I don't get out much.

I do think many people were very dressed down for business formal (I think my dress suit was borderline, just because it was a dress suit, but there was a jacket), but the basic point was is that my manager doesn't femme up for anyone, ever, during the work day.