So there is something I can do, besides scream like a woman?

Wesley ,'Chosen'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sophia Brooks - Feb 02, 2012 5:04:02 am PST #19704 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I am with Steph- for people who do reading on the subject, not so much a surprise. But still good to hear of a study that might get taken seriously.

WRT Sugar- this weird thing has been happening to me lately. I have been craving sugar. Like super duper and a lot. Like to the point of eating brown sugar. I did this as a kid, but as an adult, I am not really fond of sweets. When I was restricting what I ate in my 20's, I did used to sleep eat cookies and crackers, but I am just not fond of sweets.


Jessica - Feb 02, 2012 5:30:30 am PST #19705 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I do actually care about correcting people's misperceptions of the deathfatz, so since I seem to love the logical fallacies, what would be a better way to re-state my logical fallacy?

I wish I knew - the problem is that most of the alternative risk factors proposed (like high sugar intake) also correlate with obesity, so it's really difficult to separate the two in people's minds. Humans are generally not good at distinguishing correlation from causation.


DavidS - Feb 02, 2012 5:35:28 am PST #19706 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Humans are generally not good at distinguishing correlation from causation.

That's why we had to invent science! Then we had a method to correct for our need for instinctive, "that feels right" half-truths and falsities.


JZ - Feb 02, 2012 5:47:44 am PST #19707 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Man, the comments on that article are more infuriating than usual, even by SFGate comment thread standards. Nobody's challenging or even addressing the science; it's just a solid wall of WAH I LOVE MY SUGAR NANNY STATE BOO OBAMA WANTS TO TAX US ALL INTO OBLIVION STARTING WITH MY PRECIOUS, PRECIOUS SUGAR SOCIALISMCAKES.


Jessica - Feb 02, 2012 5:56:54 am PST #19708 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

PRECIOUS SUGAR SOCIALISMCAKES

I fully intend to steal this as the name of the organic bakery I'll be opening in Williamsburg next year.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 02, 2012 6:03:33 am PST #19709 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I for one would be happy to see corn squeezings used strictly for ethanol rather than pumped into every damned canned and boxed food I buy as high fructose corn syrup. Jones Soda is about the only thing I consume that I wouldn't be fine with switching to a sugar substitute like aspertame or Splenda.


JZ - Feb 02, 2012 6:21:17 am PST #19710 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

I fully intend to steal this as the name of the organic bakery I'll be opening in Williamsburg next year.

As long as you're willing to pay me royalties. Acceptable payment currency includes, and may indeed be strictly limited to, salted caramel cupcakes and cheddar cheese and chive scones.


Jessica - Feb 02, 2012 6:22:23 am PST #19711 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I would be happy to see corn subsidies disappear entirely, and ethanol and HFCS along with them. Put that money into electric cars instead.


Nora Deirdre - Feb 02, 2012 6:22:42 am PST #19712 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

New study out of UCSF contends it's sugar, not obesity causing chronic illness.

I just went to a diabetes awareness event the other day and the leaps of correlation were just breathtaking. I tried to be charitable and think that since Type 2 Diabetes is such an issue in LA and growing so fast, authorities are just trying to get people's attention. But, my word- the fat shaming.


Connie Neil - Feb 02, 2012 6:25:53 am PST #19713 of 30001
brillig

But, my word- the fat shaming.

Oh, god yes.

I went to one, though, that was wonderful. The presenter was diabetic and she was guzzling down diet Coke. Someone said that aspertame (or whatever's in it) was bad for you. The presenter said, "Do you know who funded the study that said it was bad for you? The Sugar Council. And they fed pounds of the stuff to rats. Don't consume pounds of the stuff, and you should be OK."

Of course diet Coke has phosphoric acid, which is doing nasty things to my bones, so I'm screwed anyway.