Saffron: But we've been wed. Aren't we to become one flesh? Mal: Well, no, uh... We're still two fleshes here, and I think that your flesh ought to sleep somewhere else.

'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Allyson - Dec 22, 2011 1:42:18 pm PST #12661 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

So I'm reading up on how Big Pharma has cured cancer in the 70s but won't release it because there's more money in chemo, and Big Pharma doesn't do cures. Are the same people that believe that the same people that believe vaccinations cause autism?

They sometimes overlap. They also don't seem to mind Big Alterna.


askye - Dec 22, 2011 1:49:03 pm PST #12662 of 30001
Thrive to spite them

They don't see it as Big Alterna though. That's the thing I don't get. I mean companies and individuals are raking in big bucks because the treatments cost hundreds or thousands of dollars per treatment/dose. In some cases it costs more than conventional medicine, and yet it's not considered money grabbing or greedy where anything with "Big Pharma" is.


Steph L. - Dec 22, 2011 1:49:40 pm PST #12663 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Wowwww. They really are trying to kill my sinus infection with fire. I just had a mild freakout over the dosage + length of time I'm on this course of meds, because I (of course) had to google standard dosage. Someone tell me my dr. knows what he's doing?

Sox, what are you taking (drug & dosage)? You can e-mail me if you don't fill like spilling your pharmaceutical guts for the world.


hippocampus - Dec 22, 2011 1:54:53 pm PST #12664 of 30001
not your mom's socks.

Steph, insent. And thanks.


Ginger - Dec 22, 2011 2:01:28 pm PST #12665 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Ginger, how long were you on anti-bs once they figured it out? If that's not too personal.

I took fairly large doses of clindamycin and Bactrim for about a month. I also put an antibiotic cream in my nose. I got a sheet of instructions for killing staph around the house. My intestines rebelled a little, but it wasn't bad. I don't know what they do if you're allergic to sulfa drugs.


javachik - Dec 22, 2011 2:04:39 pm PST #12666 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Yeah, a few weeks back someone I otherwise think is credible got into a twitter "discussion" with me over the cancer thing. It's kind of rude to people like me and my friends who work at Genentech (and other companies) and are doing everything they can to conquer that fucking nightmare disease.

I am not disinterested, obviously, because I work at a biotech, but I'd be all for universal healthcare too. It's not just about being greedy. It's about wanting to cure diseases and have everyone have access to the cures.


meara - Dec 22, 2011 2:10:49 pm PST #12667 of 30001

It's kind of rude to people like me and my friends who work at Genentech (and other companies) and are doing everything they can to conquer that fucking nightmare disease.

What javachik said. Plus I highly doubt that if they'd actually done some testing that would show this magic cancer-killing drug worked, that anyone would be able to keep it a secret. I mean, I'm working on a Phase 1 cancer study now--it's the first time the drug has ever been in humans. And I think I'd notice if magically everyone was cured. And be very excited.


Polter-Cow - Dec 22, 2011 2:11:39 pm PST #12668 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Have the people who hate Big Pharma and think they just want to make money and keep everyone sick and buying their drugs heard of compassionate use programs? We give away so much drugs for free!

I mean, I'm working on a Phase 1 cancer study now--it's the first time the drug has ever been in humans.

Phase I high-five

I'm drug safety lead on a couple Phase I studies right now. It's pretty neat to be there at the beginning. The last Phase I I worked on didn't go so well, but this one is doing better so far.


meara - Dec 22, 2011 2:13:59 pm PST #12669 of 30001

I have, however, been in a meeting where they explained that the tablet form of the drug was reformulated into a New!Exciting!Capsule. Which, granted, meant the drug was better absorbed...a little. But also meant they were going to stop selling the tablet and start only selling the capsule, at higher prices! Er...

And there are certainly issues with the way drugs are marketed and sold. But that's why I'm in research, not sales.

I'm all for universal healthcare.


§ ita § - Dec 22, 2011 2:22:02 pm PST #12670 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But that's why I'm in research, not sales.

Also because you're not a cheerleader.

I just read that somewhere, that they recruit cheerleaders for pharma sales. How...I didn't think they were recruiting cheerleaders for anything much outside of dance-related professions.