I've heard some very interesting stories about British archaeologists.
Mal: Well, look at this! Appears we got here just in the nick of time. What does that make us? Zoe: Big damn heroes, sir.
'Safe'
Natter 69: Practically names itself.
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Connie Neil - Dec 13, 2011 2:52:00 pm PST #11360 of 30001
brillig
JenP - Dec 13, 2011 2:53:28 pm PST #11361 of 30001
Horrible's kind of the point.
Whose point?
§ ita § - Dec 13, 2011 3:02:09 pm PST #11362 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I have spent way too long today defending porn. I don't know why I even bother sometimes. It's not like I like all porn, or anything. I just think it's stupid to say that if it looks like porn but doesn't degrade women it's erotica. That's so...
Step away. Just, step away.
brenda m - Dec 13, 2011 3:02:35 pm PST #11363 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Romney's. The party's. It's a dog- whistle. "We"re not saying only white people are real Americans, but we all know what we mean."
Did they look it up and say "ooh, kkk, let's use that"? Probably not. But the slogan appeals to them for much the same reasons.
Amy - Dec 13, 2011 3:05:05 pm PST #11364 of 30001
Because books.
But the slogan appeals to them for much the same reasons.
Exactly. It's just gross.
JenP - Dec 13, 2011 3:15:09 pm PST #11365 of 30001
I guess my point was it shouldn't even take a google to think, "Yeah, that's a crappy thing to hitch your wagon to," even without knowing the history of it. For some reason I thought you didn't think I got that, which concerned me.
What's horrifying is that Romney's campaign runners presumably think that has a wide appeal and will be beneficial to their cause. What's more horrifying is that maybe it does for more people than I'd like to think. Well, definitely that, because I'd like to think it would appeal to no one but rather repulse them.
ETA: I think I'm having an issue because it doesn't seem at all subtle or nudge-nudge, wink-wink to me -- it seems very direct in its anti-everyone who isn't like "us"-ism. So, I'm shocked at that level of directness about something so awful (to me, clearly not their target audience). Or that political advisors, no matter what they actually think, would think using that slogan was a good idea. As in, what percentage of this country agrees? Are they right? Because if so, I'm... lots of negative adjectives.
Amy - Dec 13, 2011 3:23:06 pm PST #11366 of 30001
Because books.
I know what you mean, Jen. On first read, you think, Wow, that's insane, no one would use that! And then you realize they likely know that there are people out there who are going to wholeheartedly cheer for it.
I wish politics didn't make me ill. I can't listen to any of it anymore.
le nubian - Dec 13, 2011 3:28:10 pm PST #11367 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Jen,
I'm right there with you. But I must admit I am 100% mystified by everything Romney does. EVERYTHING. It's like he didn't learn from when he ran in 2008 - or any of the other times for other offices.
He clearly wants to be President so badly he will do anything and say anything. What does he believe?
Sheryl - Dec 13, 2011 3:34:38 pm PST #11368 of 30001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"
Timelies all!
Just got back from dinner with Gary's mom for a belated birthday celebration. Yum!
§ ita § - Dec 13, 2011 3:37:29 pm PST #11369 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
OMG, Gwyneth Paltrow has released a concierge-like app for iOS. It looks entirely laughable.
And I'm saying that knowing I just spent ten minutes training Alfred on my tablet with restaurants and bars I like (it's a Pandora for food and drink venues), and it's not only pretty decent with suggestions so far, it's within my price range.
So there, Gwynnie. So there.