Why couldn't Giles have shackles like any self-respecting bachelor?

Xander ,'Beneath You'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Zenkitty - Dec 10, 2011 1:00:49 pm PST #10894 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

bonny, why should you bear their burden? If you're the Captain of the ship, then yeah, okay, but if you're just another person the same as all of them, why should you be hurt instead of them?

I'm not saying, stand by and do nothing while others are hurt. I'm saying, why would you feel *obligated* to offer yourself in the place of another person to whom you owed nothing? (Not family, not friends, not even subordinates, just people.) To the point of not being able to live with yourself if you didn't? To do it would be brave and noble, but to feel like you HAVE to or OUGHT to, that's an unnecessary burden to place on yourself.


msbelle - Dec 10, 2011 1:10:36 pm PST #10895 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

> I'd wear the tabi with the zori.

Ok, I had to look up stuff to understand this. things do not belong between my toes.


Laura - Dec 10, 2011 1:12:05 pm PST #10896 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

I would volunteer (in theory) to be hostage but I am quite confident my employees would not let me. Here's hoping we don't find out.

Verra cute Jammie's, ita.

( and that tried to be Verrazano and ITA )

Eta: and I didn't type Jammie's either!!!


msbelle - Dec 10, 2011 1:18:25 pm PST #10897 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

mac and I started getting last year getting new Christmas jammies. WOuld have gotten the ones for this year yesterday, but he flipped out, so maybe I'll do it tomorrow.


beekaytee - Dec 10, 2011 1:18:39 pm PST #10898 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

To the point of not being able to live with yourself if you didn't? To do it would be brave and noble, but to feel like you HAVE to or OUGHT to, that's an unnecessary burden to place on yourself.

I'm not looking at it from a sense of owing others...that's what I mean about it not being brave. I couldn't live with _myself_.

Now that I'm thinking about it, it's hard to explain.

There is a sense of nobility I suppose...If not me, then who?

It is also about an odd sense that all of my life is borrowed anyway. I really ought not be alive, statistically speaking, and I do not fear death at all.

I fear pain, of course. I'd rather avoid that portion of the program, to be sure. But asking others to take pain instead of me...I just don't think I could do it.

Note: if I ever get tortured for info I clearly don't possess, all my captors would need to do is threaten someone else and I'd cave like a caving thing.


beekaytee - Dec 10, 2011 1:25:07 pm PST #10899 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I would volunteer (in theory) to be hostage but I am quite confident my employees would not let me. Here's hoping we don't find out.

I'm quite certain they would not and...amen.


sumi - Dec 10, 2011 1:27:20 pm PST #10900 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Liese, not being warm enough is why we'd knit tabi style socks from some lovely and warm yarn.


§ ita § - Dec 10, 2011 1:40:38 pm PST #10901 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The notion of going on after others were harmed in my place is unthinkable

But then you'd force them to live with the same explicit knowledge. Is that fair? And the premise isn't that they weren't picked in your place. Just that they were picked.


Zenkitty - Dec 10, 2011 1:46:00 pm PST #10902 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

ita ! says what I was trying to say, in fewer words.


beekaytee - Dec 10, 2011 1:47:44 pm PST #10903 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

But then you'd force them to live with the same explicit knowledge.

Yep. Not brave. Pretty sure I said that.