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Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sophia Brooks - Dec 09, 2011 6:31:27 am PST #10671 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Is there an academic misconduct committee at your school? At the School of Nursing I work at, the procedure is that the professor does a formal complaint of academic misconduct, and then it goes to a three person committee. The other (Arts and Sciences, Engineering) seem to leave it more in the hands of the professors, although I think there is an eventual committee. I think the formality here is that because these people are eventually licensed health care professionals, any form of cheating is seen as a potential black mark to the profession and the school does not want to graduate students who have the potential for professional misconduct.


DavidS - Dec 09, 2011 6:34:25 am PST #10672 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

David mentioned something last night about cartilege breaking down as you age, but there are some recent studies contradicting that. They studied a bunch of moderate runners (10-20 miles weekly) over a course of years, and found that the regular, moderate exercise actually helped their knees stay in good condition: it keeps the joints elastic and lubricated. I suspect that marathoners would have a different result, but it's enough to keep me pounding the pavement three or four times/week.

So why is my knee feeling so grindy? Just lack of use? Probably makes sense that building up the muscle supporting the joint would help.


Liese S. - Dec 09, 2011 6:37:35 am PST #10673 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Okay, yeah, exercise. I did okay being bossed around by Noom for a bit, but then I have not done so well since. The SO & the (rapidly healing!) Biscuit went out for a walk on the people trail today, but I slept. Boo me.

We've declared today a work day in the middle of our furlough to do pesky things like give the government money and make deposits and stuff. But all I want to do is drive the hour and a half up to the north side of town and look at makeup. Which I can't buy if I don't give the government money thus ensuring our continued organizational existence and make deposits and so forth. But still. Makeup. It comes in stores here.


§ ita § - Dec 09, 2011 6:38:43 am PST #10674 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My god. My work phone was redirected to my home phone, so when the networking guy called me at 6am I was screwed for the morning.

He called me and had me repeat to him the content of the ticket, and for all that...I get an email this morning where he has done jackshit (I asked for new IP addresses, and instead he gave me old IP addresses. Like, looked up IP addresses already assigned to that server and retold them to me). For something that was supposed to have been done yesterday.

I finally come into the office (not that I feel well enough to do it--I just did it anyway), and this bullshit?

God, today is going to be pissy.


Consuela - Dec 09, 2011 6:38:59 am PST #10675 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Well, do you give it regular, moderate exercise?

And I'm sure there are other reasons a knee might have trouble other than the cartilege breaking down, as well. But certainly building up the muscle would help.


Zenkitty - Dec 09, 2011 6:42:04 am PST #10676 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Hec, it could be the beginnings of arthritis. Also there's of course a genetic component - some people's cartilage breaks down sooner, some people's doesn't at all. You can help your cartilage with - of course - moderate regular exercise. Certain supplements have been shown to help, but I think that's very individual - some supplements help some people, some don't. I've found a combo of glucosamine, MSM, and hyaluronic acid makes a notable difference in both how my joints and my backbone feel, and how my skin looks. This might or might not work for anyone else.


DavidS - Dec 09, 2011 6:51:12 am PST #10677 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Well, do you give it regular, moderate exercise?

A fair amount of walking but that's it.

I've found a combo of glucosamine, MSM, and hyaluronic acid makes a notable difference in both how my joints and my backbone feel, and how my skin looks.

I feel like I really should start doing something to look and feel better. Clearly I need to get on the Retin-A/Glucosamine/Exercise train and ride it out of the West before I diminish like some used up ol' Galadriel.


Steph L. - Dec 09, 2011 7:06:36 am PST #10678 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

now we also have an elaborate peeing process (while pouring warm water over her)

Does that work at all for her? Is it worth the trouble/mess? (I'm a grown-ass adult, and trying to pour water over my ladybits when peeing is really a tribulation. But it did help with the pain, so I called it worth it.)


Holli - Dec 09, 2011 7:07:20 am PST #10679 of 30001
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

I... probably should not contribute to the aging discussion, because it would make y'all hate me. But I will note that I can't pull all-nighters anymore like I could even four or five years ago.

(I turn 26 in like two weeks. Eep!)


le nubian - Dec 09, 2011 7:08:49 am PST #10680 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

lcat and Sophia,

so, the student is a master's level student and I think if she passes both classes this term, she will graduate. Whether or not she graduates this term now has no impact on my decision. Before I was thinking I would try to help her meet the December graduation deadline, but that consideration is entirely off the table now.

Get this: she plagiarized on a rewrite of a paper I made her redo from last semester. It was bad and I would not let a student complete my class with such bad writing. Beau thinks just on GP that I should fail her because the rewrite WAS her 2nd chance.

Two things are at issue for me that aren't personal (as in: WHY did she do this in my class? *scream*) -

1) I think it is a serious problem for someone to graduate with a bachelor's degree and a master's degree and not know how to properly cite and not know what plagiarism is. She claimed not to realize that if you paraphrase, you should include the author and date and that direct quotes from the internet should be cited.

2) given #1, if I read the problem as partially the result of her ignorance, she won't become knowledgeable about it unless I make her do an assignment.

She is not a good student, she does not write well. I sent her to the Writing Center previously and her papers (supposedly after their help) are barely "B" level writing.