Reavers ain't men. Or they forgot how to be. Now they're just nothing. They got out to the edge of the galaxy, to that place of nothing, and that's what they became.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Dec 07, 2011 2:30:30 pm PST #10366 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Because being a single mother is too difficult for some women to countenance?

It reads to me like being a mother in this situation is just a means to get the government to give you money, though. So the choice is between being "feminist married" and having lots of kids and living like a welfare queen and being single and getting no fancy government money at all.


Steph L. - Dec 07, 2011 2:32:00 pm PST #10367 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

On average, a feminist marriage will have at least four income sources, two of them tax-free, plus backup welfare entitlements.

I am totally getting right on this!

I know! I wanted to marry Tim so we could make our friends and family dance around a pig at the reception, but four income sources is WAY better than a pig!


billytea - Dec 07, 2011 2:38:12 pm PST #10368 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I know! I wanted to marry Tim so we could make our friends and family dance around a pig at the reception, but four income sources is WAY better than a pig!

A pig is NO MATCH for four income sources! Its swine-fu is powerless before the combined strength of four income sources! Red river hog, you have met your match in the average feminist marriage!


Sophia Brooks - Dec 07, 2011 2:41:00 pm PST #10369 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

On average, a feminist marriage will have at least four income sources, two of them tax-free, plus backup welfare entitlements.
I am totally getting right on this!

Jesse, will you marry me?


Jessica - Dec 07, 2011 2:45:18 pm PST #10370 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Guys, before y'all jump into anything, speaking from my admittedly limited perspective in a boring old non-feminist marriage...there's just a slight possibility that kids may be way the fuck more expensive than this guy thinks they are. And also that food stamps are not actually printed on gold leaf.


tommyrot - Dec 07, 2011 2:49:59 pm PST #10371 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Guys, before y'all jump into anything, speaking from my admittedly limited perspective in a boring old non-feminist marriage...there's just a slight possibility that kids may be way the fuck more expensive than this guy thinks they are. And also that food stamps are not actually printed on gold leaf.

Well, yeah. But women in a feminist marriage are supposed to sleep with rich men (while lying about using birth control) so they can get child support.

I'm still reading stuff on that blog. There's a lot of scary men out there.

(You may all yell "duh" at me if you wish.)


Jessica - Dec 07, 2011 2:52:21 pm PST #10372 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

But women in a feminist marriage are supposed to sleep with rich men (while lying about using birth control) so they can get child support.

Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine?


Tom Scola - Dec 07, 2011 2:53:28 pm PST #10373 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

kids may be way the fuck more expensive than this guy thinks they are.

That's why you need to lesbian-marry them off as soon as possible.


tommyrot - Dec 07, 2011 2:53:34 pm PST #10374 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine?

Closer to the MRA end of the spectrum.


§ ita § - Dec 07, 2011 2:54:31 pm PST #10375 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It reads to me like being a mother in this situation is just a means to get the government to give you money, though.

I'm just answering Hil's question, not commenting on a feminist marriage at all. I don't think it's surprising to want to raise a child with someone else--platonic dyads should be just as acceptable a way of achieving that--if you can commit to a stable parenting environment, that is, as opposed to upping the risk of tearing the family unit apart because you're not making a Relationship commitment to them.

I know sisters who moved in together to raise children, for instance. I wouldn't do it, but I don't think it's a dubious concept.