That's devastating, Amy. There aren't all that many SEALS to start with, so to lose that many in one accident is massive.

Amy, that is terrible. I am so sorry for you brother, and for all the friends and family of those involved in the incident.

(I was coming here to bitch about my website totally fucking up while I'm so sick, but it doesn't seem all that urgent anymore.)

I'ma hug my kitties now (boys are in Iowa w/o me.)

Amy, that’s so awful. I’m so sorry for your brother and friends/family of people involved.

I just realized why the husband half of the summer-neighbor family looks familiar. He's a ringer for Mark Blucas. But leaner. And his wife (who I've been marketting with and sending restaurant reccs to) resembles a fresh-faced Celine Dione in a good way. She's very pretty. I have no idea why I just made the connection now. And that baby? He's adorable.

We're not super-close but talk easily and have similar senses of humor. Honestly, if they were here for longer, I think we'd end up being good friends. They're leading an itinerant life for the next couple of years.

Also, met my neighbor's fiance and her dog. I like her and her dog. And am laughing at neighbor because he's always referred to the basement as his mancave, but until his tenants leave at the end of the month, it houses 3 females (daughter, fiance and female dog) and him.

The sad thing? A lot of them were married, because they were in the dev group, which is a close-knit community down there at Dam Neck. My SiL knows many of the families and my brother was going out with a few other guys from base to drink at one of the deceased SEAL's favorite bars.

And I just got home from two hours at the nursing home. My mom is still there, but my grandmother is not going to last the night. I hope she doesn't, really -- she was seizing hard for almost two hours, and is full of fluid.

Today has been surreal. And thank you all for your thoughts. I'm worried about my brother -- I know there has to be some survivor guilt there, plus how close those guys get when they're in a glorified tent in Afghanistan for a month. My mom I'm not so worried about -- we've been expecting this for a while. I just hate how hard it is.

Amy, that's a lot to cope with in your family. Be kind to yourself.

I actually spent this afternoon before I knew anything about the SEALs making peach cobbler, so I am now having an enormous bowl of same. And just waiting for Mom to call.

Sorry to bring such downer news to Natter. It's been ... a really hard, strange day.

Good can reside with bad. It's how it is. Enjoy the cobbler.

As far as I knew, there is only one dev group at Dam Neck. Which means that likely many of those guys who died were on the team that killed bin Laden, I'm guessing.

The whole story is so sad. It reminds me of those guys who died on Mogadishu. They were safe and died going in to rescue someone else.

You know, besides the horribly sad loss of life, that is a major loss to the US' strategic SF capabilities. From what I have heard, those guys had skills that take years to develop and don't exist at that level anywhere else.

eta: the NY Times says that the Pentagon says that those guys were not on the bin Laden team, but I highly doubt the Pentagon would give the Taliban the satisfaction of confirming that fact.