Wow, you've really mastered the power of positive giving-up.

Cordelia ,'End of Days'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Aug 01, 2011 1:37:15 pm PDT #18882 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

For Steph, and anyone else interested in an experimental bellydance troupe's take on pony play (most likely NSFW, though there is no nudity)

That's pretty cool. (And it looks really hard!)


Pix - Aug 01, 2011 1:37:38 pm PDT #18883 of 30001
The status is NOT quo.

’Suela, I had to skip a ton of Natter since I’ve had limited internet access these past couple of weeks, but I just backread a bit and saw the asshattery going on with your job. I am so sorry. I can’t imagine how frustrated and even betrayed you must feel.


Consuela - Aug 01, 2011 1:42:40 pm PDT #18884 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I can’t imagine how frustrated and even betrayed you must feel.

Yeah, you know, I know that they couldn't ever actually promise me anything, because that's not how the civil service system works. But the fuckups, and the incompetence, and the (in at least two instances) actual malice? Those piss me off.

And I've put all sorts of shit on hold because of this--I've planned no travel, haven't put my house on the market (and that's been fun watching my equity drain away), etc etc. It's enraging.

And yet I do know that I'm still better off than 98% of the people in this country, and I ought to be a little more grateful.


Hil R. - Aug 01, 2011 1:49:34 pm PDT #18885 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

(Is "goyim" a pejorative, or simply a descriptive? Is it like "gadjo" in Romany?)

Can be either. IME, Israelis use it more as a descriptive, but American usage tends to be more pejorative.


smonster - Aug 01, 2011 1:52:00 pm PDT #18886 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

That's pretty cool. (And it looks really hard!)

Unmata is totally badass. They do fire stuff and put on the Blood Moon Regale every year with a different theme (I should link you some of the stuff from the Batman one!). Also, actual quote from a workshop I took with them, as we all struggled to do the moves at pace - "I wonder how fast we'd dance if we didn't smoke pot? ...eh, we'll never find out."


Jesse - Aug 01, 2011 1:52:47 pm PDT #18887 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Fuck that, though. Of course you should be happy to have a job, but that doesn't mean they are treating you like shit and jerking you around.

Man, I just had delicious clam chowder for dinner, made by my grandmother, but it reminds me why I haven't had hot food for dinner in months.


Typo Boy - Aug 01, 2011 1:52:55 pm PDT #18888 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Basically to the extent "Goyim" is not perjorative, it is because it has evolved in use. It is derived from the Yiddish for "cattle". So originally it was Jews calling non-Jews "cattle". And then it got used so much that it is not always intended perjoratively. But it definitely is perjorative in origin.


Hil R. - Aug 01, 2011 1:53:32 pm PDT #18889 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Basically to the extent "Goyim" is not perjorative, it is because it has evolved in use. It is derived from the Yiddish for "cattle".

No it's not. It's the Hebrew word for "nations."


Pix - Aug 01, 2011 1:55:06 pm PDT #18890 of 30001
The status is NOT quo.

Fuck that, though. Of course you should be happy to have a job, but that doesn't mean they are not treating you like shit and jerking you around.

What Jesse said.


Atropa - Aug 01, 2011 1:57:12 pm PDT #18891 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Fuck that, though. Of course you should be happy to have a job, but that doesn't mean they are not treating you like shit and jerking you around.

Jesse is very wise.

Pix! I'm so glad you're having a wonderful trip.

So, when was the next Onerous Task Day? Can I claim today as mine? I applied for unemployment, sent off two emails about job leads, posted a new book discussion post on Gothic Charm School, and am writing a new advice post. And tonight I'm going to work on making things to sell at the Mourning Market event.