Got my ginger-peach pie in the oven, hoping the peaches don't cook down into soup (but I expect they will).
Now for some more editing.
Giles: Stop that, you two. Riley: He started it... Xander: He called me a bad name! I think
it was bad; it might have been Latin.
'Selfless'
Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Consuela - Jul 16, 2011 3:58:55 pm PDT #16930 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
Jesse - Jul 16, 2011 4:14:53 pm PDT #16931 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
OK, here's a possibly controversial thing: I'm watching Jon Stewart and Jerry Seinfeld talking about Michele Bachman's husband and how gay he seems, and I don't think it's right. For all we know, he is living a completely non-hypocritical life based on what he believes. Maybe he is gay, but doesn't act on it. (Odds on that? Probably not great, but work with me.) Maybe he married a woman and is monogamous with her because he thinks to do otherwise is a sin. I disagree with him, but I'm fine with people living their beliefs, as far as they don't hurt other people. Some dude living a sad life while married to a crazy woman doesn't actually hurt anyone else.
Consuela - Jul 16, 2011 4:16:12 pm PDT #16932 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
Yeah, that bothered me a bit too.
sj - Jul 16, 2011 4:18:14 pm PDT #16933 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
Some dude living a sad life while married to a crazy woman doesn't actually hurt anyone else.
Well, some people might argue that trying to "cure the gay" out of others as a therapist is hurting other people.
le nubian - Jul 16, 2011 4:19:40 pm PDT #16934 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Jesse,
except for the fact that he runs a clinic to "de-gay" gay people. I don't much care for speculating - I have never seen the man, I don't give a shit - but his clinic is really odious. The things he has said about gay people are really odious.
Jesse - Jul 16, 2011 4:21:52 pm PDT #16935 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Yeah, the clinic stuff is horrifying. Let's spend a full segment of a hugely popular show talking about that, not how he talks and dances.
DavidS - Jul 16, 2011 4:24:21 pm PDT #16936 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I'd be more concerned about targeting Mr. Bachman being in the closet except there's such a looooong history of super conservative homophobes who turn out to be themselves gay.
Jesse - Jul 16, 2011 4:26:31 pm PDT #16937 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
I can't imagine many of that kind of clinic ISN'T run by "ex gays" or whatever, but it's just not the point. And saying someone's gay because of how he talks is just homophobic.
Sophia Brooks - Jul 16, 2011 4:30:25 pm PDT #16938 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
I'm with you Jesse. If we want to live and let live, we have to let others do the same. The clinic is something we can focus on, but talking about Mr. Bachmann's sexuality based on his characteristics is doing just what I don't like people to do to anyone.
Consuela - Jul 16, 2011 4:31:28 pm PDT #16939 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
The clinic is something we can focus on, but talking about Mr. Bachmann's sexuality based on his characteristics is doing just what I don't like people to do to anyone.
Exactly.