Willow: Yikes. Imagine the things...Buffy: No! Stop imagining! All of you! Xander: Already got the visual.

'Dirty Girls'


Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Cashmere - Nov 19, 2010 11:56:09 am PST #6365 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Tom, I hope that your therapy session helped, even though it was tough.


§ ita § - Nov 19, 2010 11:57:34 am PST #6366 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Laura, have you ever lived in France?


tommyrot - Nov 19, 2010 12:01:27 pm PST #6367 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Laura, have you ever lived in France?

ita, are you going to move to France?


§ ita § - Nov 19, 2010 12:03:03 pm PST #6368 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm wondering if it's France, or French guys. And then I need to abort that train of though, stat.


meara - Nov 19, 2010 12:19:14 pm PST #6369 of 30001

would assume Israel's bigger airports would be as busy as most US airports, right? With the exception of maybe LAX and O'Hare and things

Per Wikipedia (...salt as needed) Ben Gurion had about 11 million passengers through, in 2009. The Indianapolis airport (...not one I think of as big) had 7.5 million. Seattle had 31 million. O'Hare (one of the biggest in the US) had 64 million. So, Israeli airport is rather smaller than US ones.


brenda m - Nov 19, 2010 12:29:23 pm PST #6370 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

i've heard from more than one friend that they had to have an extensive interview when leaving Israel as a young American woman travelling alone, but not that they missed their flights or anything.

My brother and his friend were separated and question for more than four hours. Two youngish American men going from Israel to Moscow though.


Cass - Nov 19, 2010 12:45:25 pm PST #6371 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I'm a little tired of people calling for either 1) a boycott of flying or 2) a protest at security.

I really don't understand what people think throwing a fit *at* security is going to do. I've complained when they've broken the rules but, if they are following the actual policies, what does being a tool in the line do for you or anyone?

No, I don't think their policies make anything safer. But I am absolutely certain that being a tool to a person doing their job won't make anything better. Complain to actual agencies or government reps, don't fly if you are that opposed but don't be a tool in the line. At best it's showmanship and at worst you are going to make me late for my flight.

There are risks when I fly, I accept this. I also accept risks when I am in a car, on a train or walking down my tilty stairs in the rain.

Well, it's not "fine," but at least that's a more reasonable process. It's the equivalent of a good cop checking in with "Everything okay here?" when something looks odd. Profiling based on behavior will turn up plenty of false positives. As long as you & security both know that, I think it's okay; knowing there's some reason behind it makes a big difference, at least to me.

Concur.

Native Americans visited Europe 1000 years ago

Ooooooh! Fascinating. Off to obsessively read more. Thanks!


brenda m - Nov 19, 2010 12:48:15 pm PST #6372 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I really don't understand what people think throwing a fit *at* security is going to do. I've complained when they've broken the rules but, if they are following the actual policies, what does being a tool in the line do for you or anyone?

The talk I'm hearing isn't about breaking the rules. It's about refusing the scan to force the grope-down, which will take longer and gum up the works. (Still no fun if you're in line behind, but.)


Dana - Nov 19, 2010 12:55:04 pm PST #6373 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Given a choice, I would rather be scanned than groped. But honestly, I went through security in Frankfurt and was given a pretty thorough check-out by a German airport worker who was quite friendly. So, you know.

Back from the emergency room. My mom is there with my grandmother. I had to come home to get my father to pick up his car, which, as you may remember, refused to start the night before the funeral.

I really wish I'd had the foresight to buy liquor when we were at the grocery store a few days ago.


flea - Nov 19, 2010 1:00:09 pm PST #6374 of 30001
information libertarian

You're in New Orleans, Dana. Surely there is a liquor store that delivers?