Laura, have you ever lived in France?

ita, are you going to move to France?

I'm wondering if it's France, or French guys. And then I need to abort that train of though, stat.

would assume Israel's bigger airports would be as busy as most US airports, right? With the exception of maybe LAX and O'Hare and things

Per Wikipedia (...salt as needed) Ben Gurion had about 11 million passengers through, in 2009. The Indianapolis airport (...not one I think of as big) had 7.5 million. Seattle had 31 million. O'Hare (one of the biggest in the US) had 64 million. So, Israeli airport is rather smaller than US ones.

i've heard from more than one friend that they had to have an extensive interview when leaving Israel as a young American woman travelling alone, but not that they missed their flights or anything.

My brother and his friend were separated and question for more than four hours. Two youngish American men going from Israel to Moscow though.

I'm a little tired of people calling for either 1) a boycott of flying or 2) a protest at security.

I really don't understand what people think throwing a fit *at* security is going to do. I've complained when they've broken the rules but, if they are following the actual policies, what does being a tool in the line do for you or anyone?

No, I don't think their policies make anything safer. But I am absolutely certain that being a tool to a person doing their job won't make anything better. Complain to actual agencies or government reps, don't fly if you are that opposed but don't be a tool in the line. At best it's showmanship and at worst you are going to make me late for my flight.

There are risks when I fly, I accept this. I also accept risks when I am in a car, on a train or walking down my tilty stairs in the rain.

Well, it's not "fine," but at least that's a more reasonable process. It's the equivalent of a good cop checking in with "Everything okay here?" when something looks odd. Profiling based on behavior will turn up plenty of false positives. As long as you & security both know that, I think it's okay; knowing there's some reason behind it makes a big difference, at least to me.

Concur.

Native Americans visited Europe 1000 years ago

Ooooooh! Fascinating. Off to obsessively read more. Thanks!

I really don't understand what people think throwing a fit *at* security is going to do. I've complained when they've broken the rules but, if they are following the actual policies, what does being a tool in the line do for you or anyone?

The talk I'm hearing isn't about breaking the rules. It's about refusing the scan to force the grope-down, which will take longer and gum up the works. (Still no fun if you're in line behind, but.)

Given a choice, I would rather be scanned than groped. But honestly, I went through security in Frankfurt and was given a pretty thorough check-out by a German airport worker who was quite friendly. So, you know.

Back from the emergency room. My mom is there with my grandmother. I had to come home to get my father to pick up his car, which, as you may remember, refused to start the night before the funeral.

I really wish I'd had the foresight to buy liquor when we were at the grocery store a few days ago.

You're in New Orleans, Dana. Surely there is a liquor store that delivers?

The talk I'm hearing isn't about breaking the rules. It's about refusing the scan to force the grope-down

I am thinking more along the lines of filming your security clearance and screaming about junk touching. Which seems, to me, more about the eventual media coverage.

Or the people who throw a fit when they can't take their water bottles or bigger bottles of toiletries through.

When you are actually in the line is not the time to try and get the rules changed. The rules are what they are. And you can totally try to change them elsewhere but the TSA agent in front of you is not the final authority.

You're in New Orleans, Dana. Surely there is a liquor store that delivers?

Hopefully there will be dinner later. I have plans. Big plans.