Jayne: What're you gonna tell the others? Mal: About what? Jayne: About why I'm dead. Mal: Hadn't thought about it. Jayne: Make something up. Don't tell 'em what I did.

'Ariel'


Natter 67: Overriding Vetoes  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, nail polish, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Nov 03, 2010 4:47:41 am PDT #3507 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

And New York State can look forward to some lovely tablescapes and theme-tinis in the governor's mansion!

Better Sandra Lee than Carl Paladino! We were given a choice of crazy and went with the Kwanzaa cake. I can live with that.

(And did we all know that one of the third party candidates was the madame of the escort service that got Spitzer kicked out of office? Oh politics, don't ever change.)


Jesse - Nov 03, 2010 4:49:57 am PDT #3508 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Better Sandra Lee than Carl Paladino! We were given a choice of crazy and went with the Kwanzaa cake. I can live with that.

Absolutely. It's not like Sandra Lee actually got elected -- she's just a fabulous gift-with-purchase.


billytea - Nov 03, 2010 4:51:06 am PDT #3509 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

The House results were pretty brutal. The party in power were always going to get hammered in a midterm with the economy in the toilet though. (I think they underperformed against even this standard, but it doesn't make any reall difference to the situation.) On the bright side, it looks like the Dems not only held the Senate, but held enough seats not to have to worry about Nelson and Lieberman flipping.

I think it's probably good news for Obama too, at least as far as 2012 is concerned. The public still holds the Repubs in lower regard than the Dems. I doubt that'll change now they're back, with added Tea Party. Next go-round, they'll have to shoulder public scrutiny too.

Doesn't help get things done in the short term, though.


Steph L. - Nov 03, 2010 4:56:51 am PDT #3510 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I think it's probably good news for Obama too, at least as far as 2012 is concerned.

Really? Because I'm terrified that that scary ignorant nitwit Palin will run in 2012 and win.


Burrell - Nov 03, 2010 4:56:58 am PDT #3511 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

The public still holds the Repubs in lower regard than the Dems.

Well the California results certainly speak to that, but country-wide, Dems seemed to take a pretty brutal beating.


Theodosia - Nov 03, 2010 4:57:13 am PDT #3512 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

So Paladino didn't win in NY? Oh, thank goodness.


Steph L. - Nov 03, 2010 4:58:33 am PDT #3513 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

country-wide, Dems seemed to take a pretty brutal beating.

Honestly? A lot of people are out of work and scared. And if the Republicans had had a majority going in to this election -- and unemployment figures were the same -- I think they would have lost a lot of seats.

I truly can't fault people for being scared and wanting a fix. But DAMN, can I ever fault them for believing propaganda.


Burrell - Nov 03, 2010 4:59:27 am PDT #3514 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Really? Because I'm terrified that that scary ignorant nitwit Palin will run in 2012 and win.

And now I have nightmares too. Although the losses for O'Donnell, Angle, and Miller don't speak well for the Tea Party.


Steph L. - Nov 03, 2010 5:03:31 am PDT #3515 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Although the losses for O'Donnell, Angle, and Miller don't speak well for the Tea Party.

We were talking about Rand Paul at work this morning, and chatty co-worker reminded me that he was replacing that whackjob Jim Bunning, who might as well have been Tea Party.

And while I was typing that, the fire alarm went off at work. See yas.


billytea - Nov 03, 2010 5:11:51 am PDT #3516 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Really? Because I'm terrified that that scary ignorant nitwit Palin will run in 2012 and win.

Nah. She'd be another Goldwater, but without the legacy. People who like her like her a lot, but she turns off everyone else. Dems, independents, and a reaonable chunk of the Republican Party too. She stands less chance than Christine O'Donnell did.

She could conceivably win the nomination, if the "Please, God, Anyone But Her" vote is totally fractured, but she's poison for a countrywide election.

Well the California results certainly speak to that, but country-wide, Dems seemed to take a pretty brutal beating.

Yes, but "who will you vote for" isn't quite the same question. (Starting with, "Generic" isn't an option on a ballot paper.) The Dems got slaughtered because they were in power and people are suffering, not because anyone was actually thrilled about the alternative.