When I was in school I never gave it a second thought. As an adult, I think it's a little creepy.
[eta: Not the pledge itself, but making kids say it in school.]
Up until the punching, it was a real nice party.
Kaylee ,'Shindig'
Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.
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Jessica - Aug 31, 2010 5:15:02 am PDT #21280 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Aims - Aug 31, 2010 5:16:05 am PDT #21281 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.
I don't have a problem with it - Emeline says it in her classroom every morning. I don't think it's compulsory, but they say it.
I understand the issues surrounding it, particularly the "under God" part, but personally, as a parent, I don't have a problem with it.
ChiKat - Aug 31, 2010 5:16:10 am PDT #21282 of 30001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?
The original 1892 version or the amended version from 1954?
The current version.
partly because it seemed to go against what I understood as the founding principles of my country
Could you elaborate?
As an adult, I think it's a little creepy.
Why?
Steph L. - Aug 31, 2010 5:16:44 am PDT #21283 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism
I didn't do it. At least not in high school. Partly it was the "under God" thing and partly because it seemed to go against what I understood as the founding principles of my country.
If the "with liberty and justice for all" part were even remotely true, I'd have less of a problem with it. t edit I understand that that's the (alleged) ideal, or at least was the ideal when it was written, but...NSM in the real world we have to live in.
Also, making kids stand and recite a loyalty oath every morning is like, Hello Red China!
Cashmere - Aug 31, 2010 5:18:04 am PDT #21284 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.
I think we said it every morning in grade school. I didn't question it then. I don't think I'd mind if my kids said it now. Mostly because it's for show.
I'd say it now if asked--but I also bow my head when others around me pray, even though I do not.
Daisy Jane - Aug 31, 2010 5:18:55 am PDT #21285 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
Also, making kids stand and recite a loyalty oath every morning is like, Hello Red China!
This.
Lee - Aug 31, 2010 5:21:04 am PDT #21286 of 30001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
In junior high, we were supposed to say the Pledge during first period, which is when I had Spanish class, so we used to say it in Spanish.
Aims - Aug 31, 2010 5:21:27 am PDT #21287 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.
In grade school we said it and then sang "My Country Tis of Thee".
And funnily enough, when Emeline first learned it last year, she made us say it before every meal. I think because her class got their morning snack right after.
tommyrot - Aug 31, 2010 5:22:20 am PDT #21288 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
This is my favorite version of the Pledge:
"I plead alignment to the flakes of the untitled snakes of a merry cow. And to the republicans for which they scam, one nacho, underpants with licorice and jugs of wine for owls." ~Bongo from Life In Hell (Matt Groening)
Kat - Aug 31, 2010 5:22:48 am PDT #21289 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
When I taught in middle school, they did the pledge every day. I expected each kid to be willing to stand politely, even if they don't say it.
I also think it's weird to pledge allegiance to a flag first, not to the ideals of the country. I think there's something beautifully medieval about the idea of a allegiance, implying a liege lord.
I do sing the national anthem though.