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Inara ,'Serenity'


Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kat - Aug 05, 2010 8:15:02 pm PDT #16561 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Ok. going to bed now. I finished all twelve evaluation letters. WOOT WOOT, as my son would say.


Spidra Webster - Aug 05, 2010 8:16:52 pm PDT #16562 of 30001
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.

Kat, I think it depends on where you hang out. I spend the majority of my time at Friendfeed.com and it's pretty diverse. Probably the most diverse community I've ever been part of online. I regularly run into people who don't agree with my beliefs and vice versa. Sometimes that's a good thing and sometimes it's a bad thing, but it's definitely been a learning experience.

Congrats on getting the evals done!


Cashmere - Aug 05, 2010 8:17:29 pm PDT #16563 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I'm afraid of that, too, Kat.

I have a few conservatives I keep on FB because I've known them since we were kids and they have a few redeeming qualities. But it can be easy to self select communities where you feel safe and respected.

Not many people want to wade into the shit on their free time. I certainly respect those that do. Especially buffistas who may feel closer to the conservative side of the spectrum but still love my Commie Socialist ass.


P.M. Marc - Aug 05, 2010 8:19:38 pm PDT #16564 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I wonder if the internet will make it easier to surround yourself with likeminded folks, thus polarizing us even more?

I think it has contributed to the echo chamber effect, but it started before the internet was as widespread as it is now.

Between the decision of 2000 and 9/11, I saw a massive shift and retreat to bunkers on all sides.

I kind of want there to stop being sides. I want to be able to live and let live. But I can't forget seeing my then community condemning people like me as traitors or worse in the weeks following the WTC falling while I sat there, quietly, wondering if anyone knew they were talking about one of their own. I can't forget, and part of me can't forgive. So.


Kat - Aug 05, 2010 8:20:19 pm PDT #16565 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

But it can be easy to self select communities where you feel safe and respected.

Seriously! A mom from the g-tube support group I'm part of friended me on FB and she is deeply conservative. She posts shit with links refuting global warming and I just CAN'T go there. Yet I do respect what she does for her daughter, even when I think she's wrongheaded crackpot material.

Not many people want to wade into the shit on their free time.

I certainly don't. And I get tired of @@ and fighting so I just avoid those places.


Kat - Aug 05, 2010 8:21:43 pm PDT #16566 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Plei, I'm so groggy and tired from writing about students that I think I was unclear. I was thinking of how it applies to me and how I've bunkered myself so that sometimes I lose sight that other people actually think shit that is incomprehensible. And sometimes those people vote and get a majority. And then I'm surprised. Like on Prop 8.


Lee - Aug 05, 2010 8:27:36 pm PDT #16567 of 30001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

My company is talking about sending me to London for a week sometime next month. Will keep you posted as things line up.

Not in the middle of the month, I hope.

I would also be happy to go in with people on the Nubar.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 05, 2010 8:28:28 pm PDT #16568 of 30001
What is even happening?

Plei, the echo chamber is mighty. My friend on fb is a truly excellent person. I can't imagine anyone here meeting her in person and not loving her immediately. But her political opinions seem to come from the ether. I can't reconcile them with the intelligent (truly, truly) loving woman I know.

It must be extra frustrating for someone like you (I'm not misremembering, am I?) who once upon a time identified as conservative. Of course, I think both conservative and liberal outlived their useful lives, years ago.


P.M. Marc - Aug 05, 2010 8:51:55 pm PDT #16569 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

It must be extra frustrating for someone like you (I'm not misremembering, am I?) who once upon a time identified as conservative. Of course, I think both conservative and liberal outlived their useful lives, years ago.

I was a libertarian for a while. Basically, until I came to the conclusion that big business was worse than big government, because you can't vote out big business.

IOW, until I started working for The Man.


Jesse - Aug 06, 2010 3:05:55 am PDT #16570 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Kat, I'm so glad your father's surgery went well. Now for all of the rest of it to sort itself out...

I'm glad the conservative people I'm FB friends with (including a relative or two, I'm sure) don't feel the need to engage when I post political stuff.