No power in the 'verse can stop me.

River ,'War Stories'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Calli - Feb 10, 2010 10:14:40 am PST #7692 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Hiya Corwood. Welcome to the Triangle! Maybe we can have a mini-f2f with the other Trianglistas.


-t - Feb 10, 2010 10:15:02 am PST #7693 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I've had good luck with not pre-rinsing my dishes and it doesn't seem to matter what detergent I use if, and this is both key and annoying, I take my dishwasher apart and clean all the parts (spinny arms, filters, whatever comes off easily) once every month or two. Running it with vinegar rather than detergent now and then (either empty or with only glassware) now and then also helps. I do not think my dishwasher is particularly new, but I'm not sure. Kitchen was obviously renovated in the 80s, but may have been semi-updated since then.


sarameg - Feb 10, 2010 10:16:09 am PST #7694 of 30001

I don't have a dishwasher anymore!

OK, vacuum time!


erikaj - Feb 10, 2010 10:18:53 am PST #7695 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!

me either...they die in here.


msbelle - Feb 10, 2010 10:21:38 am PST #7696 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I take my dishwasher apart and clean all the parts (spinny arms, filters, whatever comes off easily) once every month or two.

I have never ever done this. huh.

I grew up rinsing and still do. stuff gets washed less quickly now so the chance for food to dry and harden is greater. I'd say 90% or more is clean from every load. Recently knives have been coming out still dirty.


Steph L. - Feb 10, 2010 10:22:21 am PST #7697 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Unless you have severely-soiled, like "crawling-around-in-mud" dirt caked on your clothes, it's quite OK to use half the recommended amount of detergent, which is less harsh to the fabric and will save wear and tear on your clothes, too.

Not putting clothes in the dryer saves *hugely* on wear and tear, too. I pretty much only dry socks, underwear, t-shirts, and gym shorts/yoga pants.


sarameg - Feb 10, 2010 10:24:57 am PST #7698 of 30001

Sparky, that lady is an ass.

We're on for wine and whine at 7:30 tonight. Yay!


msbelle - Feb 10, 2010 10:28:39 am PST #7699 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

omg, wine and whine sounds like the best neighborhood event ever. I really hope that we buy into a neighbory neighborhood. I think it will help that I won't be working for a month or so and plan to try adn do yard stuff in the mornings.


Sparky1 - Feb 10, 2010 10:29:46 am PST #7700 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

I am getting the last word by saying nothing to her.

I pre-rinse because we don't run the dishwasher every day. I think that the Seventh Generation guy is not washing poopy things when he suggests washing clothes without soap.


-t - Feb 10, 2010 10:30:52 am PST #7701 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Yeah, I only started the taking-things-apart approach recently, when my dishes were never getting clean, thinking it was a one-time need. Turns out, it works but doesn't last too long. I could probably avoid it if I was willing to pre-rinse or be more selective about what goes in the dishwasher, but I am more willing to take the thing apart.