Mal: So we run. Nandi: I understand, Captain Reynolds. You have your people to think of, same as me. And this ain't your fight. Mal: Don't believe you do understand, Nandi. I said 'we run'. We.

'Heart Of Gold'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Dec 06, 2009 11:36:00 am PST #23370 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Ugh, Cashmere. Rotten day on multiple fronts. No idea what Owen saw that turned him off? I don't suppose it really matters.


Cashmere - Dec 06, 2009 11:49:47 am PST #23371 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

No idea what Owen saw that turned him off? I don't suppose it really matters.

No clue. I tried asking him. His quirks are usually VERY small and strange. He's calmer now. We're eating grapes and watching Spongebob. Spongebob is very good for mindlessly relaxing.


Cass - Dec 06, 2009 12:23:03 pm PST #23372 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Six years after the Episcopal Church exploded in dissension over the election of the nation's first actively gay bishop, The Rev. V. Gene Robinson of New Hampshire, the Diocese of Los Angeles has elected a second.

Is the word they want "openly" and not "actively" because those words? Do not mean the same thing.


Jesse - Dec 06, 2009 12:24:37 pm PST #23373 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I think there's been stuff (and I'm not sure specifically about the Episcopals) that you could be openly gay if you were celibate -- hating the sin, etc.


tommyrot - Dec 06, 2009 12:27:31 pm PST #23374 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I found this really interesting - maybe a few people here will also....

Impotent futurism: the design of Allende's cyber-utopian boondoggle

Greg Borenstein sez, "This is a video version of a paper I delivered with Jem Axelrod at the 2009 PAMLA Conference about Project Cybersyn, an early 70s socialist pseudo-internet built by British cyberneticist Stafford Beer in Chile. The video explores how Beer's writing, infographics, and industrial design worked together to create a science fictional narrative of omniscience and ominpotence for Salvador Allende's socialist government."

Bigger video here: Free As In Beer: Cybernetic Science Fictions


Tom Scola - Dec 06, 2009 12:38:21 pm PST #23375 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Does cyborg Salvadore Allende get killed by a cyborg Henry Kissinger?


Kat - Dec 06, 2009 12:49:46 pm PST #23376 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Oh, Cash, what a sucktastic day for you. All of last night's talk about patties made me wake up and make a dozen of beef patties of my own. But without the yummy flake of the crust (though mine is just pie crust) and with a sliver of cheese in each. OH LORD. All my food should be in pie form.

We went to the Aquarium. Noah's favorite animal on exhibit remains the scuba divers who feed or clean tanks.


brenda m - Dec 06, 2009 12:54:38 pm PST #23377 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Six years after the Episcopal Church exploded in dissension over the election of the nation's first actively gay bishop, The Rev. V. Gene Robinson of New Hampshire, the Diocese of Los Angeles has elected a second.

What Jesse said. I'm pretty sure Gene Robinson is "married". (Scare quotes sadly intentional.)


tommyrot - Dec 06, 2009 12:59:30 pm PST #23378 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Does cyborg Salvadore Allende get killed by a cyborg Henry Kissinger?

It sounds like it - during the CIA-sponsored coupe on 9/11/73.

Also, the term 'cybernetics' seems to have fallen out of favor a few decades ago....


Cass - Dec 06, 2009 1:06:15 pm PST #23379 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Ah, glad to know it was my misread and not bad writing. Thanks. Having a hive mind rocks much of the time.

We went to the Aquarium. Noah's favorite animal on exhibit remains the scuba divers who feed or clean tanks.

I was about to support Noah but then I wondered if I can support someone who doesn't flail over otters. Otters, little man, otters.