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Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Nov 12, 2009 3:44:18 pm PST #19063 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I got two matches from speed dating!

Scola = AWESOME.


Calli - Nov 12, 2009 3:53:22 pm PST #19064 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Go Tom!

Murray says the warning was needed because students didn't heed his "reasonable request" to stop the meeping.

Murry should have asked Dr Bunsen Honeydew for better ways to handle this.


Vortex - Nov 12, 2009 3:54:07 pm PST #19065 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Go Scola!


sarameg - Nov 12, 2009 3:56:24 pm PST #19066 of 30001

brenda, you were in Sanctuary too?? OMG! My dad drove a lot of people through NM! I remember when the feds were really cracking down having a family meeting discussing the possibilities (dad goes to jail, etc.)

We've got some amazing crayon drawings from one group which was heartbreakingly, all kids. Close family had been disappeared in Guatemala and parent were worried the kids would too as leverage and sent them through Sanctuary. The thing is, they are so classic Guatemalan art, it's incredible.

Dad gets called on federal juries from time to time. Down there, they are often immigration cases. He always has to disclose Sanctuary and the prosecution runs screaming from him. It's funny.

What blows my mind is that for every transport, at 5 pm the night before, either my dad or the priest running ___ House in El Paso (I'm forgetting the name) sent a certified letter to the El Paso INS field office, informing them of their actions (though obviously not the details.) It was part of the principle of the org. They weren't denying that they were breaking the law. It was an honesty thing.

Thank god I didn't know that until later. Preteen me might've freaked out even more than I did on transport days.


brenda m - Nov 12, 2009 4:04:05 pm PST #19067 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

___ House in El Paso (I'm forgetting the name) sent a certified letter to the El Paso INS field office, informing them of their actions (though obviously not the details.) It was part of the principle of the org. They weren't denying that they were breaking the law. It was an honesty thing.

Pretty sure I know where you're talking about, though the place we worked with most was in Brownsville. When I first got involved, I was living in a place in Georgia and we made bus trips every few months to that area to bring people up and give them some basic language and culture skills (and start their INS proceedings, for whatever good that was. Mostly we connected them with the Canadian gov.) Later, when I was back in Milwaukee, it was more about counseling and being a voice to hear who gave a shit.

Man, we should talk more. I'm so out of touch with that world these days and I feel bad about it.


sarameg - Nov 12, 2009 4:10:42 pm PST #19068 of 30001

Mostly we connected them with the Canadian gov

Yeah, pretty much all the transports dad did were en route to Canada, where they could get political refugee status. US wouldn't recognize them as political refugees. Goddamn Regan and Ollie North and all that shit. El Salvador, Nicaragua, Guatemala. Keep in mind, I was only "involved" because my dad was doing this and I was a kid, though I supported it.

ok, I've got to google, because I can picture the storefront in El Paso, but am still drawing a blank.


Jesse - Nov 12, 2009 4:13:01 pm PST #19069 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

We had a Salvadoran Sanctuary family in my church in the 80s.


sarameg - Nov 12, 2009 4:13:54 pm PST #19070 of 30001

Oh, that was easy: Annunciation House: [link] It's really an amazing group. Don't remember the priest's name.


javachik - Nov 12, 2009 4:15:13 pm PST #19071 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Remember Torque? He was from Brownsville. I remember this because he was so surprised, when he told us at the F2F, that I knew where Brownsville was. "Of course I do! The sweetie whose mom died on Real World Boston was from Brownsville".

Yes, I learned U.S. geography from MTV.


Sophia Brooks - Nov 12, 2009 4:19:35 pm PST #19072 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

There was/is a church that splintered off from the catholic church here in Rochester NY. They are apparently in the process of forming their own, new church. The pastor was removed because he was letting women perform eucharist/doing ceremonies for gay people, and doing a lot of community outreach, and 1/3 of the parish followed him (or rather started doing their own thing and he followed them!)

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