As for Catholic splinter groups - isn't the deal that if you splinter you're not Catholic any more? Because of the whole Pope-having thing?
right. So I wonder if there are whole congregations that would be like, hellllloooo Espiscopal church in America, we are more aligned with your beliefs and want to become part of you now.
FUCK YEAH! I just beat my brother-in-law at Facebook Scrabble. This is possibly the ONLY time I will ever beat him at Scrabble my entire life because he is scary-good, and I beat him ON MY BIRTHDAY. Awesomecakes.
There were a lot of Catholics disenchanted with the Vatican in my Quaker meeting growing up. (Our southwestern brand of Quakerism was
really
welcoming. We had a lot of disenchanted something-ers. Even some buddhists. ) Like I said, pretty open and all-encompassing. Boy, was NC quakerism a bit of a shock... We were a bunch of weirdos. I know the ABQ meeting had a schism when a critical mass of more traditional quakers joined. In fact, I don't think they even participated in the regional meeting of the 4 corners states. They joined the east Texas regional one.
Anyway, a lot of the Catholics came to us via common social activism activities. Our friend Jim Corbett (quaker) and some nuns went to prison for their part in the Sanctuary movement, smuggling refugees through the US. The progressive social justice aspect of Catholicism was pretty strong down there. I've heard that's been frowned on in recent years.
right. So I wonder if there are whole congregations that would be like, hellllloooo Espiscopal church in America, we are more aligned with your beliefs and want to become part of you now.
I sometimes want to broach the subject with our now-retired pastor, except that it feels almost scandalous and adulterous even to think about it.
But, if the entire parish ever went, I'd go with them. My relationship with them is totally "As Willow goes, so goes my nation."
Yay Tom!
What do I want in housewares/towelsfor Xmas from my SIL?
You can't go wrong with more washcloths for the bathroom--I need to stop by Kohl's or Target and pick up a bunch to replace the really ancient ones I currently have.
Our friend Jim Corbett (quaker) and some nuns went to prison for their part in the Sanctuary movement, smuggling refugees through the US. The progressive social justice aspect of Catholicism was pretty strong down there.
Yeah, there were a lot of Catholics in Sanctuary when I was involved. I need to remind myself to think of those people rather than the mainstream.
But it's hard. Those people are, in my experience, so much the exception. While the mainstream are, while maybe not actively (or consciously) hostile to women or immigrants, unthinkingly acquiesing to a lot of seriously fucked up shit. I left the church because at core I don't buy it. And before that I spent a lot of time thinking and convincing and arguing - and my path was Presby to UCC. I just have a lot of trouble with the idea of being and proclaiming to be part of a church that has so much wrong - and more to the point, does and advocates so much wrong - without walking away. I don't get it.
I don't have that core belief, and so maybe I won't ever get it. But it's really hard to fathom.
Massachusetts school bans students from saying "Meep." [link]