No studying? Damn! Next thing they'll tell me is I'll have to eat jelly doughnuts or sleep with a supermodel to get things done around here. I ask you, how much can one man give?

Xander ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


msbelle - Nov 12, 2009 3:15:19 pm PST #19054 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

As for Catholic splinter groups - isn't the deal that if you splinter you're not Catholic any more? Because of the whole Pope-having thing?

right. So I wonder if there are whole congregations that would be like, hellllloooo Espiscopal church in America, we are more aligned with your beliefs and want to become part of you now.


Jessica - Nov 12, 2009 3:19:56 pm PST #19055 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

FUCK YEAH! I just beat my brother-in-law at Facebook Scrabble. This is possibly the ONLY time I will ever beat him at Scrabble my entire life because he is scary-good, and I beat him ON MY BIRTHDAY. Awesomecakes.


sarameg - Nov 12, 2009 3:21:52 pm PST #19056 of 30001

There were a lot of Catholics disenchanted with the Vatican in my Quaker meeting growing up. (Our southwestern brand of Quakerism was really welcoming. We had a lot of disenchanted something-ers. Even some buddhists. ) Like I said, pretty open and all-encompassing. Boy, was NC quakerism a bit of a shock... We were a bunch of weirdos. I know the ABQ meeting had a schism when a critical mass of more traditional quakers joined. In fact, I don't think they even participated in the regional meeting of the 4 corners states. They joined the east Texas regional one.

Anyway, a lot of the Catholics came to us via common social activism activities. Our friend Jim Corbett (quaker) and some nuns went to prison for their part in the Sanctuary movement, smuggling refugees through the US. The progressive social justice aspect of Catholicism was pretty strong down there. I've heard that's been frowned on in recent years.


Polter-Cow - Nov 12, 2009 3:24:05 pm PST #19057 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I got two matches from speed dating!

Kickass!


JZ - Nov 12, 2009 3:25:55 pm PST #19058 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

right. So I wonder if there are whole congregations that would be like, hellllloooo Espiscopal church in America, we are more aligned with your beliefs and want to become part of you now.

I sometimes want to broach the subject with our now-retired pastor, except that it feels almost scandalous and adulterous even to think about it.

But, if the entire parish ever went, I'd go with them. My relationship with them is totally "As Willow goes, so goes my nation."


sarameg - Nov 12, 2009 3:28:56 pm PST #19059 of 30001

Yay Tom!

What do I want in housewares/towelsfor Xmas from my SIL?


Kathy A - Nov 12, 2009 3:34:34 pm PST #19060 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

You can't go wrong with more washcloths for the bathroom--I need to stop by Kohl's or Target and pick up a bunch to replace the really ancient ones I currently have.


brenda m - Nov 12, 2009 3:35:12 pm PST #19061 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Our friend Jim Corbett (quaker) and some nuns went to prison for their part in the Sanctuary movement, smuggling refugees through the US. The progressive social justice aspect of Catholicism was pretty strong down there.

Yeah, there were a lot of Catholics in Sanctuary when I was involved. I need to remind myself to think of those people rather than the mainstream.

But it's hard. Those people are, in my experience, so much the exception. While the mainstream are, while maybe not actively (or consciously) hostile to women or immigrants, unthinkingly acquiesing to a lot of seriously fucked up shit. I left the church because at core I don't buy it. And before that I spent a lot of time thinking and convincing and arguing - and my path was Presby to UCC. I just have a lot of trouble with the idea of being and proclaiming to be part of a church that has so much wrong - and more to the point, does and advocates so much wrong - without walking away. I don't get it.

I don't have that core belief, and so maybe I won't ever get it. But it's really hard to fathom.


Hil R. - Nov 12, 2009 3:39:54 pm PST #19062 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Massachusetts school bans students from saying "Meep." [link]


Steph L. - Nov 12, 2009 3:44:18 pm PST #19063 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I got two matches from speed dating!

Scola = AWESOME.