Xander: Am I right, Giles? Giles: I'm almost certain you're not. Though, to be fair, I haven't been listening.

'Sleeper'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


JZ - Nov 12, 2009 1:17:05 pm PST #19007 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

I can't even read any of those articles about the massive cruelties of multiple dioceses across the country. It's all barely recognizable to me as the same church as the crunchy Northern California post-hippie social justice spiritualitycakes covered in Vatican II sauce I remember from my childhood. It's just scary angry people saying and doing things that sound like the complete opposite of everything I thought I knew and loved. Just about every fuzzy inclusive rights-and-justice-expanding lefty principle I hold dear is, for me, directly and deeply tied to what I believe the founder of my faith expects of me in this life, in this world. These people running the Church make me feel like either I'm an insane space alien or they are.

At least it makes me feel good for the first time in forever for being so poor -- I haven't contributed to anything but emergency funds to fix the roof or buy books for the schoolkids in my tiny local parish since probably 2003, so at least I know I'm not funding these assholes. Though I'm scared that it also means that it doesn't matter if I write angry letters threatening to leave; they're just going to shrug and say, "Ehn, no skin off our noses" and go on doing just what they were doing before.


Connie Neil - Nov 12, 2009 1:23:54 pm PST #19008 of 30001
brillig

Was the link of dogs greeting their returning soldier humans here or in Bitches? I can't view it at work, and I want to send it home.

Or am I hallucinating that it was here at all?


dcp - Nov 12, 2009 1:26:29 pm PST #19009 of 30001
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

Ah, you people with your seasons. We have one of those. It involves rain.

Flanders & Swann describe English weather thus: [link]


msbelle - Nov 12, 2009 1:26:40 pm PST #19010 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Have there been large splits in the Catholic church like in the SBC splitting off and the recent Episcopalian splinters? Because really? I could see a significant number of US Catholic churches splitting off. Every new member group to our church is mostly RCC leavers.


Calli - Nov 12, 2009 1:33:25 pm PST #19011 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I haven't been in a while, but I remember my Unitarian Universalist congregation having a number of former Catholics, including at least one priest.


Dana - Nov 12, 2009 1:34:56 pm PST #19012 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I'm not sure the Catholic Church has a mechanism for splitting. If you're not with the Vatican, they kind of tend to excommunicate you.


Vortex - Nov 12, 2009 1:36:29 pm PST #19013 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

But Jesus asked God to forgive those who crucified him, even though, "They know not what they do."

But these people know exactly what they were doing.


Zenkitty - Nov 12, 2009 1:36:55 pm PST #19014 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

But don't they then go off to become their own church, and kinda thumb their nose at the Vatican? Anglican, Protestant, Episcopalian... right? This is not my strongest subject.


javachik - Nov 12, 2009 1:38:40 pm PST #19015 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Connie: here's the doggie story.


msbelle - Nov 12, 2009 1:39:38 pm PST #19016 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Well Anglican was a KING taking all the churches of his nation away, right? Not really the same as a bunch of individual churches getting together at whatever their version of General Assembly is (they have one right?) and stating issues with current church doctrine/decisions/whatnot. FTR all my knowledge of how churches run is from the Methodist church.