Man, the Atlantic just posted an article about Mr. Crinklypips, and one of the other commenters and I started playing lovingly with his name -- as one does -- and some humorless crosspatches are vigorously downvoting us. Way to piss in our cornflakes, people!
Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle.
Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'
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JZ - May 21, 2013 1:32:38 pm PDT #24452 of 30000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
Polter-Cow - May 21, 2013 7:32:12 pm PDT #24453 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Star Trek into Darkness: The Spoiler FAQ.
Look, you’re getting very upset, and this is just the first scene of the movie.
le nubian - May 21, 2013 9:57:52 pm PDT #24454 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
that was a scream, but the bigger scream are at least two commenters who wrote master's theses in response to this. You know you are about to go into the weeds, when the remarks starts: "according to the Starfleet manual..."
The other one took such offense at the "questioner" in the article! His outrage was downright hilarious. He does realize the questioner *is* the author, yes?
Jessica - May 22, 2013 3:58:54 am PDT #24455 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
That was pretty awesome.
Jessica - May 22, 2013 4:09:03 am PDT #24456 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
OH MY GOD THIS THIS THIS:
If Khan is from the 1990's, and Starfleet knows all about the Eugenics Wars, can't they duplicate what would surely be a very simple 'augmentation' on Kirk's own blood? Like, with basic medical equipment and an encyclopedia?
It's like if we suddenly realized from a frozen caveman that leeches cure cancer, and instead of just BREEDING SOME GODDAMN LEECHES, we defrosted one frozen cave-leech and cured one guy. SO DUMB.
§ ita § - May 22, 2013 6:34:57 am PDT #24457 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I am glad though, that the solution did NOT involve a mad quest to get their hands on the toxin and then taking an hour and a half to create (and thoroughly test, natch) an antidote. I mean, the fact that they'd establish you could pretty much just use what you got...yeah, cheap anyway. Just, could have been cheaper.
I question this part of the FAQ, though:
hasn’t Trek always at least nominally tried to get science right?
What Trek masterpieces do people think used to exist? Am I from the future with Eric Bana and that's why I don't remember these narrative and scientific masterpieces?
Matt the Bruins fan - May 22, 2013 7:39:15 am PDT #24458 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
hasn’t Trek always at least nominally tried to get science right?
As compared to what? The Flintstones?
Zenkitty - May 22, 2013 10:18:39 am PDT #24459 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
Yeah, the next movie better make mention of how nobody's ever gonna die anymore.
Felicia Day posted a rant about how no girls did anything special (bwuh? okay) including ranting about how the Special Council convened after the first attack was "all old white men"! For the record, it wasn't. I saw the movie again last night and that group of Starfleet's Top Men included at least five women, several people of color, and at least one non-human. That's a case of seeing what you wanted to see, Ms. Day.
§ ita § - May 22, 2013 10:40:36 am PDT #24460 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The girls did scream though. Which bugged me. And I do think we were pretty underpowered. There weren't too many roles of agency outside of the named players, but--beef up what Uhura does and make her a tad less pouty and less proof that you shouldn't fuck your shipmate (Kirk is also similar proof, but thankfully consistently blocked) and consider making either Robocop or Mickey female since they're new to the viewer.
And no, I don't care if that makes women villains. We can do that too.
Jessica - May 22, 2013 10:43:21 am PDT #24461 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Did any of the non-white-non-male-non-humans in that scene have lines, though? Present in the background is a pretty low bar for diversity.
I was bugged that, once again, the apparently super-competent female scientist felt the need to randomly change clothes in front of Kirk. These movies have at least as much male eye candy as female, but do we ever get to see Zachary Quinto in his underwear? Fair's fair, JJ!