If the apocalypse comes, beep me.

Buffy ,'Selfless'


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§ ita § - May 13, 2013 5:54:46 pm PDT #24351 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

May has three opening weekends for me: IM3, ST:2, and F&F6. Look, there's arithmetic!


Zenkitty - May 13, 2013 6:32:26 pm PDT #24352 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Hey, they've gotta keep some elements of Kirk's characterization from the original series...

He's brash, reckless, sneaky, ridiculously lucky, a womanizer, a rule-breaker, a fast thinker, kind of a bully but not hateful about it, a lot smarter than he lets on, a lot kinder than he seems at first; he has a good sense of humor even when the joke's on him; he has a sort of optimistic resignation to uncaring fate; he inspires people with loyalty even when they don't really know why; he's got pretty good aim but he's not as good a fighter as he thinks he is, he doesn't always walk away when he ought to, and he gets beat up a lot.

Yeah...that's Kirk.


§ ita § - May 13, 2013 6:58:11 pm PDT #24353 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I guess the fact that I like nuKirk better than the original version could be a strike against the movie, but I'm not upset about it.

I can see pretty simply that this guy becomes that guy, but as long as we hang for a while in pre-irritating territory, I'm happier.


Polter-Cow - May 13, 2013 7:12:26 pm PDT #24354 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

May has three opening weekends for me: IM3, ST:2, and F&F6. Look, there's arithmetic!

Did you see the Entertainment Weekly article about F&F? It's good stuff. Man, Fast Five was so awesome, I'm not sure they can top it, but I'm looking forward to F&F6.


Jessica - May 14, 2013 5:29:42 am PDT #24355 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I saw Trek 2 last night, and it's...disappointing. I'm seeing it again tonight (because I don't turn down free movies with pretty boys in them) and I'm mainly curious if the plot makes any sense the second time around. There are a lot of characters in this movie with a lot of very complicated plans, but I'm pretty sure once you untangle them they don't actually work out. (See also, Lost, Alias, and in fact most of the rest of JJA's career. Probably better to just sit back, relax, and enjoy the lens flares.)

There is one major plot point that would have Roddenberry spinning in his grave.

However, Zachary Quinto and Benedict Cumberbatch are still very very attractive, and so I will enjoy watching them be very attractive onscreen again. And the rest of the cast isn't bad looking either.

For people who don't like 3D, definitely see this one flat. I was in an almost perfect seat near the middle of the theater (I saw it in 3D IMAX), and I was still getting motion sick every time the ship turned around. This is an AGGRESSIVELY three-dimensional 3D movie.


Consuela - May 14, 2013 6:24:07 am PDT #24356 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

See also, Lost, Alias, and in fact most of the rest of JJA's career

Yeah, that's what I'm worried about--not just w/rt Trek, but also Star Wars. I can't believe Disney is handing over SW to Abrams.


Tom Scola - May 14, 2013 6:26:05 am PDT #24357 of 30000
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

I was quite amazed how well his first Star Trek held together.


Consuela - May 14, 2013 6:43:47 am PDT #24358 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I was quite amazed how well his first Star Trek held together

I thought it fell apart as soon as I started thinking about it. It was fun in the moment, but speaking from the perspective of someone who's worked with or for the military for much of my career, very little of it was remotely possible. The narrative was awkwardly manipulated in order to get the end-result of that Kirk in charge of the Enterprise with that specific crew, but it broke my suspenders of disbelief several times along the way.


§ ita § - May 14, 2013 6:50:00 am PDT #24359 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I still feel Avengers and Iron Man 3, for instance, fall apart (it's sad when I feel GI Joe 2 did a better job of painting the antagonist's motives and plans), and I've been told to sit back and enjoy the rides, so JJ's bar will be pretty low.


Jessica - May 14, 2013 6:59:18 am PDT #24360 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The narrative was awkwardly manipulated in order to get the end-result

Yep, be prepared for more of that. Once everyone gets to Point A, the moment-by-moment chain of causality works out fine, but getting everyone to Point A in the first place requires some very fancy hand-waving. And lens flares. So. Many. Lens. Flares.