::sidles off::
I am not...I am not the damsel in distress. I am not some case. I have to work this. I've lived in a cave for 5 years in a world where they killed my kind like cattle. I am not going to be cut down by some monster flu. I am better than that. What a wonder...how very scared I am.
Fred ,'A Hole in the World'
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§ ita § - Apr 10, 2013 12:22:32 pm PDT #24009 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Consuela - Apr 10, 2013 12:27:49 pm PDT #24010 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
Consuela, that thought is happy-making.
Claudia Black! Claudia Black! Claudia Black! ::sigh::
chrismg - Apr 10, 2013 7:24:13 pm PDT #24011 of 30000
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade
I am so fucking sick of this Neo-Romantic Luddite bullshit.
How dare we want to be happy? How dare we want to be healthy? How dare we want our lives to be any better than they've been for the last HUNDRED THOUSAND YEARS? No, you get down in the dirt and you smear your face in the shit because that's what you are. That's what you deserve. And if you DARE DARE DARE try to change that, you deserve to have your face kicked in and your kids stolen because if you can't magically fix the problem everywhere and all time, it's not worth even trying.
ETA: The bio-phobic Neo-Platonist would-be technocrats who can't wait to become pure energy are just as bad, but they don't have the full force of the reactionary hate machine behind them.
§ ita § - Apr 11, 2013 5:14:34 am PDT #24012 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
There is definitely information I'm missing in evaluating what seems to be a dystopic 1% suck story. Is it based on a novel you dislike?
chrismg - Apr 11, 2013 6:57:47 am PDT #24013 of 30000
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade
The trailer is more of a last-straw thing, but look at it. How do we indicate that these people have advanced technology? We show them curing cancer easily and painlessly. What kind of cancer? Well, it's not specified, but the chain is pretty easy to follow:
Tanned girl in bikini + Cancer -> skin cancer you got because you're a lazy bitch who lolls in the sun all day -> you are UNNATURALLY AVOIDING your JUST PUNISHMENT for not GRUBBING IN THE BACKBREAKING DIRT ALL DAY like humans always have and always will, forever and status quo, AMEN!
Polter-Cow - Apr 11, 2013 7:25:37 am PDT #24014 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
That's...that's not the chain I see at all.
It's just another class warfare narrative. I don't see where anyone is saying that humanity deserves to be in the dirt and never ascend. It's saying that if you ascend, don't leave people behind.
chrismg - Apr 11, 2013 7:32:33 am PDT #24015 of 30000
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade
Well, assuming Blomkamp doesn't go for the grimdark ending where Matt Damon dies horribly and the Elysites rule the world forever, there are two possible endings:
1) The starsiders start building new habitats and open immigration for all dirtsiders, or
2) the habitat is brought CRASHING DOWN TO EARTH WHERE YOU BELONG and all the people who committed the horrible crime of being born topside are forced to GRUB IN THE DIRT LIKE REEEEEEEEEEL PEEEEEEEEPUL.
Now it's possible we're going to get the first one, in which case I'll happily eat my words. But I'll bet folding money we get the second.
Ef: Hit post too soon
§ ita § - Apr 11, 2013 8:03:18 am PDT #24016 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Pretty much 100% with P-C on this one. I have to assume there's information about the script or the director that I don't have that makes it other than a "Look what they take for granted. Look what they don't have. Fuck the dichotomy."
I'd have to wait until I get some of that other information to be convinced that the simple implications are not what they mean to convey.
It's not like access to healthcare isn't charged with have and have not right now.
erikaj - Apr 11, 2013 8:10:22 am PDT #24017 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!
I finally watched "Sleepwalk With Me" that for some reason I didn't want to rent and then hid in my queue for weeks(Not sure if I was avoiding gimp cooties or NPR cooties) In any case, I was wrong...I loved it. So, I thought I'd ask Buffistas if that sort of thing ever happened to them. Maybe a friend LOVED something and kept trying to get you to watch it, or your queuelooks like mine, as if four people make the decisions and it's mostly just you.
Sophia Brooks - Apr 11, 2013 8:45:22 am PDT #24018 of 30000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
My movie like that was Elf. I avoided and avoided. I told my BFF how much I hated embarrassment comedies. I was so sure I would hate it and I loved it-- it was totally my brand of sweet and sentimental, and did not make me want to crawl under the table in second hand embarrassment for Will Ferrell!