Can actors have plan Bs and still succeed?

What about artists? Is this when I get to bring up Chatty and how he's landed the dream job inking for Marvel yet still works at a day job because he wants his wife and son to have health insurance?

Damn sell-out.

That's choosing something else over your artistic career.

No, it's not. That's my point -- you can do both. My first novel was published while I was working full-time, and I had kids and a home to take care of.

"Fuck Plan B" is dismissive and contemptuous of the idea of a Plan B.

So what? What kind of responsible, inoffensive rock stars do you want anyway? Morrissey says ten pissier things than that before he has his tea. Go ahead and dump your Smiths albums. Your life will be poorer. Jesus, it's a stupid thing to hold as a grievance against Amanda Palmer.

Which is your prerogative, but if that's your standard for rock stars you're going to get some very tame music.

Why get mad at a rock star for advocating risk taking? Some people thrive on it - just about all rock musicians do.

Toni Morrison edited other people's writing, and wrote hers on the train home. That certainly didn't make her less of an artist.

Yeah, and I did my first book writing on my lunch breaks and working until midnight after I put Emmett down. But Toni and I had children and guess who doesn't - Amanda Palmer.

And juggling parenthood and a career in the arts is very different than advocating that young people just starting their careers leverage their biggest asset - their freedom.

I don't need to argue the point any further. I think the grievances against Amanda Palmer are ridiculous.

What kind of responsible, inoffensive rock stars do you want anyway?

Yes, that's exactly the crux of my issue with the statement. Some musician's persona. Right.

Well, except I want to respond to this.

I have seen, over and over, myself included, the lower middle class artists choose the plan B without even trying Plan A, because the thought of being without security is terrifying

That is a pretty close paraphrase of my point. If you value security more than your work then you will have a much smaller chance of succeeding.

However, I do not think this blanket rule fits all. Some people - many artists - work best when they have a stable base. I think that's true for a lot of writers.

But for musicians? It's much less common.

So, I don't see how Amanda Palmer's comment is irresponsible or wrong.

Yes, that's exactly the crux of my issue with the statement. Some musician's persona. Right.

What is your objection? She was condescending to people with straight jobs?

What is your objection? She was condescending to people with straight jobs?

My objection is that there's nothing wrong with having a plan B. I don't care who says "Fuck Plan B." I'm always going to disagree with them.

She was condescending to people with straight jobs

She was implying that the only route to artistic/financial success was to give yourself no other options. Which in my mind only works if you are, as I said above, persistent, talented, good at business/marketing, and lucky. And even then you still might fail.

The average young artist following her advice is going to fail and because they have no Plan B, will face financial ruin. And maybe that's okay if they are single and employable, but what about those with other obligations? Is it appropriate to tell them that the only way to be successful is to put all their eggs in one, delicately balanced, basket?

I don't think it's unethical of her to make these statements, but I can see how people would have a problem with it.

The average young artist following her advice is going to fail and because they have no Plan B, will face financial ruin.

THIS.

I don't think it's unethical of her to make these statements, but I can see how people would have a problem with it.

And THIS. Thank you, Consuela.

Sort of relatedly, a friend of mine just told me her cousin is going to get drafted into the NFL as a kicker, and my immediate reaction was, "Jesus -- I hope he's thinking about what he's going to do after." Because he's not going to be a star, in the best possible outcome.