To commemorate a past event, you kill and eat an animal. It's a ritual sacrifice, with pie.

Anya ,'Sleeper'


Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Hil R. - Apr 12, 2009 6:05:34 pm PDT #6582 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Yay for debt-free, omnis!

I just paid my credit card bill, but I'm going tomorrow to talk to the financial people about getting a student loan. Really don't want to, but I don't really have any other choice. Stupid money, having to be paid for goods and services.

I think I'm going to the F2F this year. I need to look into flight prices and stuff.


beth b - Apr 12, 2009 6:09:00 pm PDT #6583 of 30000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

Yes I use ambien CR. I sleep better than most of the people with insomnia here -- but It I wake up between 2 and 3 I will be up until half an hour before the alarm goes off. I don't take it all the time - mostly when I haven't slept well for a number of days in a row. I always wake up groggy the next am -- but I'm not sure it isn't because I haven't slept enough for a few days. It is the most amazing thing to wake up and realize it is morning and I wasn't awake 6 times at night. Knowing it is there - even thought I can't take it until the next night -- is sometimes enough to calm my brain and let me go back to sleep.


beth b - Apr 12, 2009 6:13:31 pm PDT #6584 of 30000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

and yay for no debt. I wish I had understood debt better when I was younger. I went from only cash to CC debt with out much in between. I needed debt at an earlier age to learn how to pay a little debt off before getting big debt


Hil R. - Apr 12, 2009 6:17:00 pm PDT #6585 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Yet another Elsie-related question. (This seemed like a better place for it than literary, since it's really more about cigars than anything else.) In this book, a 12-year-old boy smokes a cigar, because his older cousin offers it to him and pretty much implies that he's a baby if he doesn't take it. He smokes about half of one cigar. "But it was not many minutes before he began to feel sick and faint, then to find himself trembling and feeling giddy." He staggers to the window for some air, barely able to walk, and says, "I'm half blind and awfully sick." He can't get down a flight of stairs, even with someone's arm to lean on, and a servant comments that his eyes look like glass, and his heart is racing. A doctor says that he won't be well enough to go home (about a 15-minute ride) until the next morning.

Were cigars back then much stronger than now? Filled with something other than tobacco? Or is that reaction possible from just tobacco? Or is this just the author exaggerating the effects for a "smoking bad" message?


Vortex - Apr 12, 2009 6:18:43 pm PDT #6586 of 30000
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I think we're going to get our geek on and see the new Wolverine movie. And then he puts out. Right!?

yep. and he should pay for dinner to get some of your sweet stuff.


brenda m - Apr 12, 2009 6:23:20 pm PDT #6587 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I'd say that's pretty extreme, but cigars can be kind of nauseating and dizzy-making if you're not used to them, especially if you're inhaling like a cigarette. I don't know what makes them so different, but they definitely are.


beth b - Apr 12, 2009 6:45:57 pm PDT #6588 of 30000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

Pretty much any book I've read that was an early children's book describes cigars that way .


DavidS - Apr 12, 2009 6:47:14 pm PDT #6589 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Pretty much any book I've read that was an early children's book describes cigars that way .

I was going to say I'm familiar with that trope.


omnis_audis - Apr 12, 2009 6:48:14 pm PDT #6590 of 30000
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

Um. My apartment has no water. I guess that's what that work crew on the corner was all about. Hopefully it will be fixed by my morning shower!


DavidS - Apr 12, 2009 6:58:23 pm PDT #6591 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Hopefully it will be fixed by my morning shower!

You think they'll fix it between now and morning? I wouldn't bet your pension on that.