She didn't even touch her pumpkin. It's a freak with no face.

Willow ,'Help'


Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Steph L. - Apr 10, 2009 5:36:35 pm PDT #6401 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I'm not convinced there's a direct correlation between advocating health (and I have a hard time seeing why anybody would think that's a bad idea)

Advocating behaviors that lead to good health is not the same thing as setting up health/healthy behavior as a *virtue.* Making it a virtue creates a false dichotomy where one set of behavior makes you a "good" person, and another set makes you a "bad" person, when in fact the behavior is entirely morally neutral.

You may think I'm arguing semantics, but "virtue" has a very specific meaning, and that matters.

Also, I fail to see how "unhealthy" behaviors that impact only the individual engaging in them affect society.

Obviously secondhand smoke isn't in the same category, because smoking is a behavior that affects the people around the smoker. But one person's consumption of Twinkies doesn't affect society.


Polter-Cow - Apr 10, 2009 5:43:00 pm PDT #6402 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

It means fewer Twinkies for everyone else.

(I kid, I kid.)


Steph L. - Apr 10, 2009 5:55:01 pm PDT #6403 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

P-C, you may have my lifetime allotment of Twinkies. (I never got the Twinkie love. Ho-Hos, on the other hand....)


Fay - Apr 10, 2009 5:57:22 pm PDT #6404 of 30000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

It means fewer Twinkies for everyone else.

Thank God! Because Twinkies really, truly, ming. They're one of those terrifying foods that clearly contain no actual food at all, and will still be here along with the cockroaches when everything else on the planet is dust.

...sorry, tangent. But I agree with Tep about the fact that setting up the whole moral paradigm of virtue/sin pertaining to cookies etc is spectacularly unhelpful.


Steph L. - Apr 10, 2009 5:59:33 pm PDT #6405 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Because Twinkies really, truly, ming.

Yet again, Fay and I are one. Which means I am HOTT.


P.M. Marc - Apr 10, 2009 5:59:52 pm PDT #6406 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I want some Sinful Cookies right now.

But I should have beer and pizza first.


Ginger - Apr 10, 2009 6:01:16 pm PDT #6407 of 30000
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

The filling in Twinkies is peculiarly unfoodlike.


Steph L. - Apr 10, 2009 6:01:47 pm PDT #6408 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I had pizza for dinner -- it was sauceless, but with mozzarella cheese (or whatever blend is on pizzas), chopped tomatoes, kalamata olives, mushrooms (ick), feta cheese, and enough cloves of roasted garlic to kill a warehouse full of vampires.

It was SO good.


Polter-Cow - Apr 10, 2009 6:03:55 pm PDT #6409 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Because Twinkies really, truly, ming.

Is that a verb?


Laura - Apr 10, 2009 6:04:47 pm PDT #6410 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I've never had a twinkie, and I am really not tempted. That pizza sounds heavenly. Mmmmm garlic.